"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ah! The guys she dated.

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Been seeing quite a few women lately.
Some nicer ones but some lesser ones too.

The all have quite a few stories about guys acting in the most weird, AFC and needy ways.

The most notable ones were from this 31 yo girl (I am still working on right now).

She reminds of the chick from Sex in the City. She dates a lot of guys from all walks of life and is somewhat well off in life, independent.

Arabic boyfriend. Very rich family, took her abroad in some kinds of palaces. The family refused to speak English in her presence even though everybody could. The BF didn't crap about it. She dumped him.

Then, she dated this cute yet unexperienced 26 yo guy. She thought he was a hunk but couldn't do crap in bed. LAME sha said!

Also another unconfident guy that couldnt keep his mouth shut. She had no attraction for him but said she felt pity (?) He kept on saying the craziest ****. He kept on calling and filled her voicemail everyday with utter nonsense! She stopped answering the phone...but he still called for months.

She then fell for her neighbour. She said Hi! a few times until she got drunk and went to his house. She asked to visit the appartment. She dated him until he went back with her ex. She said she was attracted by the fact that he was cute and still thinking of his ex girfriend. (Thats a bit stupid..).

Then a rich young French guy. Owned a few businesses and drove a mercedes. She said he was always telling her how to behave and she couldn't stand it! When he was in business trips, he called her EVERY day from France. She last saw the guy on a skateboard in the streets downtown. Go figure...

Then this other guy he was seeing once in a while. He was also a good looking but was VERY NEEDY! She said he could pick up any girl in the bar buit was stuck intyo oneitis big time.

I could go on and on! I find it interesting to see how such a girl could date a broad range of people. younger, older rich and poor and how they can behave in the most AFC ways.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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1. you only get her side of the story

2. How would she describe you, especially some time later.

3. You now know that she will speak about you, whether you are with her or not.
 

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yendor28 said:
1. you only get her side of the story

2. How would she describe you, especially some time later.

3. You now know that she will speak about you, whether you are with her or not.
Heyl I am no better so no flaming here please!

I understand your point. Thanks.

The guys probably all probably had some positive things as well, like anybody.

Either that or she is taking advantage.

She will probably say some stuff from me too someday.

Just thought it was interesting to mention, that's all.

I find it comforting to see that such behaviour is so common from many types of people.
 
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I knew a girl and she used to slag off this guy she went out with. In the end, the same problem she had with him was the same problem she had with me. Needless to say, I went from hating him to realising he was totally in the right and wanting to share a beer with him. Don't believe a girl's position on exes, you weren't there. At the least it will be one-sided and at the worst it will be her manipulating you so that you don't do the same thing when it really IS the right thing to do.
 

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yul said:
...I could go on and on! I find it interesting to see how such a girl could date a broad range of people. younger, older rich and poor and how they can behave in the most AFC ways.
I suspect that it could be due to:
  1. A glut of AFCs on the market and accepting their actions as the norm.
  2. They are professional daters.
  3. They aren't sure about exactly what type of man she's looking for.
  4. A combination of the above.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Whatever -

This woman has a big mouth - she likes to hear herself talk.

To much information - I dated a chick like this once - once - I dumped her when all she wanted to talk about is the guys she used to date.
 
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