"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ah, I should be fvcking her by now, help!

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I've known this byatch for some time now. Maybe 2, 3 years. But I've gotten to know her more and more for about a year and a half. Aprox.

When I met her she wasn't married. My DJ game was off, I was trying new stuff out.

Anyways, fastforwards to now. She's married now. She makes more than her husband. She owns property, and her husband doesn't. They recently had a baby. He must be months old. Her boobs got bigger. She has a petite-some body, and now has bigger boobs added...!!!

There's no denying it, I fell to the LJBF zone. I may be not because of technicicities, but I'm not fvcking her, so I'm her girlfriend.

We arrange to see each other at the gym, something like a gym date. We chat, have a good time, she's fun. We have gone out to eat after the gym, she pays. When her husband asks, even if it's the gym, she doesn't say the truth. But we haven't done anything.

I can't remember now, but she has said some "strange" things to me. You know, buying signals. Last time, we were talking about sex.


But today I got fvcking frustrated, and that's why I'm posting here. I consider her my friend, but you know, a friendly parrot (reference to my "Treat Women as Kids" thread).

She told me about this guy, that she found hot, about the flirting movement, and asked
"What do you think?"

I laughed and changed the subject.

But I want to fvck her. She's going out of town for a week.


My plan is to follow my usual plan:

Invite her over to "watch a movie".

Help, suggestions, feedback, bytchslaps, kicks, punches, comments from newbies, everything is welcome.

Thankyou.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So she is married - and she is telling you about other guys that she finds hot?

This is dangerous - don't "play" with her - wait until she gets a divorce!!
 
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Your DJ game was off...then she got married.

(In Steve Urkel's voice) Look what you did.
 
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Hmm yes like they said your game was off and you lost your chance to have a LTR ...if that is what you wanted. Now what you have to do is show her that you dont want to be her "Friend" only but maybe a friend with benifits, so I think you have to just flat out tell her ask her like you said to a movie at your place and then start to escalate the kino till you either have your hand down her shirts and you squeezing milk out of her boobs or she rejects your advances to which you should say 'I think you should leave then," and forget about her. The more you hear her talk about other guy's the more frustrated you will become which will make your life a little crappier and the more you will get jealous of hearing about that crap, either escalate and see if she is open to the idea or NEXT the b1tch because YOU shouldn't waste time on Hoe's like that. GOOD LUCK. and update.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Why would you want to?
She just had a kid. It must be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway.

You're being used, and you're almost falling into the trap.
 
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Can you turn a married friend of two - three years into a lover?
 
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remotecontrol said:
There is a small hope for type 2 AFC.

If some huge life changing event happens to TPYE 2, its just possible that they may realise what integrity is.

These types of life changing events usually only happen in the movies though.
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I have to disagree. Sounds like you never been there. So your judgments have no substance to them. Live it then come back here and talk about it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Is this for real? I mean it seems strange that anyone would want to create a situation like this for themselves?
 
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remotecontrol said:
Man, thank your lucky stars you didnt get involved with this wh0re previously, you may have been in the husbands shoes now, with a new baby, while she is lying on the phone and pr1ck teasing other guys and maybe more.
How does that idea appeal to you?
Some women discust the hell out of me, but then again you kinda discust me to. I could tell you how to hit this but she has a new baby for gods sake....grow up and be a man. A man has integrity and you dont.
She is using you as an ego boost, she knows you didnt make a move for years, she knows your an AFC and is playing you for an ego boost, something her husband probably doesnt give her anymore.
It is beginning to get on my nerves how many guys on these boards who have no clue why they are so bad with women.
Women are sexually attracted to men
Men have integrity
B1tche5 have no integrity, they are the worst kind of AFC and would sell their own mother to get some pu55y.
Why would a woman be attracted to a guy like that????
Exactly
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:yes: :yes:
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Is this for real? I mean it seems strange that anyone would want to create a situation like this for themselves?
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Some previous posters got into the idea that I want a ltr with her. No, I just want to fvck her. And, she had a C section (spelling?).

"Shout out" to my "homeboy" remotecontrol! "Props", "much respect"!. You rule man! :woo:
 
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