dj ben2
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is a 17 yr old going out with a 15 yr old ethically wrong its the only thing thats bothering me
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
age difference dillema
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Bryce556
Senior Don Juan
lets hope thats a typo lol, im guessing he means she is anywhere between 10-19 years old, or 100-199 yeas old 
dj ben2
Senior Don Juan
lol 1 yr old that was a typo
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
War Against Betaism
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In some areas the difference between age varies. From my experience the larger the community the less priority people put on age.
smooth guy
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no.
dj ben2
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yeah 2 years is nothing when your older but wen ur under 18 it feels wierd bu yeah i liv in a big city
john paul
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It shouldnt be a dillema.
Im 17, my girlfriend is 15; exact same situation you are talking about.
Im 17, my girlfriend is 15; exact same situation you are talking about.
Demosthoness
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standard creepiness threshold for dating is (your age)/2 + 7 rounded down so for you 17/2 = 8.5 + 7 = 15.5 to 15, so you're fine =)
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
john paul
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huh.
I didnt know there was an equation to figure out if you were creepy or not.
I didnt know there was an equation to figure out if you were creepy or not.
You are fine. 16 and 14 isn't the best combination, but as you become older, the 17 and 15 combination is fine.
Basically, you are a senior and she is at a second year of high school, or around there. But I'm not sure about Australia's views on this matter..
Basically, you are a senior and she is at a second year of high school, or around there. But I'm not sure about Australia's views on this matter..
Their isn't, but someone thought it would be cool to have one. I've heard that stupid formula before on here, and it is nonsense. Go to the over 25 thread and you'll see that. I have neighbors who are 10yrs apart and will probably spend the rest of their lives together. Though we are talking 50s, but they didnt use an equation. Look at Senator John McCain. He and his wife are 17yrs apart.john paul said:
It seems weird in a number sense when you are younger. When I was 23 I was dating an 18yr old. For a bit she was 17.
When you get older, no one gives an Fvck about your age. We dont go by formulas. EACH person is different. In the old days, women were marrying many older guys. This happened in many cultures, and many were married until the other died.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Emotion_sponge
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Pretty neat equation. But personally, i think it's all about maturity level.
Actually, you've got that wrong. That rule can't be applied when you're under 16. But obviously that doesn't matter here.tang said:
Age difference has always made me a little edgy. I was born at a weird date (October) and my primary school had an odd system, so I'm almost a year younger than everyone else in my class, which I get grilled for quite often. That means I'm younger than most of the girls I date (make that ALL of the girls I date).
Toussaint Boisjolie
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So, is 14 and 16 creepy?
in all fairness id never actually listen to the equation, just so far relationships iv seen or had tht stuck to it didnt seem weird stuck to it and those that appeared weird didnt. The only real things I would consider are that i think at 18 i wouldnt want to go out with anyone under sixteen, perhaps begin a relationship and wait, and at 21 it may be weird with an under 18 year old?
But thts just me.
But thts just me.
Even though girls mature quicker, there are always exceptions to the rule. There are exceptions to most everything. One 18yr old girl may not act like the second 18yr old girl.
One 16yr old may not act like the second. I see this proof at work. I work with many younger people, and they are all different. We're not talking light years difference, but they are.
I hear one girl say hi all of the time, she's nice, she never seems to have drama with the other girls at work, she is sincere, and great to be around. She smiles all of the time and you can carry on a conversation with her.
The next I hear.... cvnt, fa**ot, homo, fvck this and that out of her non-stop. Even how she talks to me. She cries out for help when she wants relationship advice, and then she yells and screams at me when I give her the truth.
She is more unstable than a firecracker on the 4th. She doesn't have many manners, and can never say anything nice. It's what you think of when people say... Stupid teenagers.
So in that respect, you cant say they are all alike. If I found a SOUND girl who was 18-19 or so, I would have no problem with dating her. Most of the time the maturity level is not there, and that's why older people dont have relationships with younger girls. At the age of 15-19 and everyone in that range dating one another, there is usually not too much of a difference.
It seems to be much less of a concern when you get older. If you're 30 dating a 21yr old, no one cares. If you are 43 and dating 33, no one cares. Usually around 25-30 and after you seem to no what is going on in life.
But you dont see 13yr olds dating 21yr olds.
If you're in high school and you're a freshman dating a senior, who cares. I did it when I was in high school, and no one even cared. In fact I dont think age ever even came up, nor did I think about it.
The main thing, is try to find someone on your level. I can say that there are 25yr olds out there (I took one out) who had no sense of life, and wanted to basically do nothing all her life though she was studying to be a nurse. This woman is not one you want to have a future with. I could find 18yr olds who had more direction than her.
One 16yr old may not act like the second. I see this proof at work. I work with many younger people, and they are all different. We're not talking light years difference, but they are.
I hear one girl say hi all of the time, she's nice, she never seems to have drama with the other girls at work, she is sincere, and great to be around. She smiles all of the time and you can carry on a conversation with her.
The next I hear.... cvnt, fa**ot, homo, fvck this and that out of her non-stop. Even how she talks to me. She cries out for help when she wants relationship advice, and then she yells and screams at me when I give her the truth.
She is more unstable than a firecracker on the 4th. She doesn't have many manners, and can never say anything nice. It's what you think of when people say... Stupid teenagers.
So in that respect, you cant say they are all alike. If I found a SOUND girl who was 18-19 or so, I would have no problem with dating her. Most of the time the maturity level is not there, and that's why older people dont have relationships with younger girls. At the age of 15-19 and everyone in that range dating one another, there is usually not too much of a difference.
It seems to be much less of a concern when you get older. If you're 30 dating a 21yr old, no one cares. If you are 43 and dating 33, no one cares. Usually around 25-30 and after you seem to no what is going on in life.
But you dont see 13yr olds dating 21yr olds.
If you're in high school and you're a freshman dating a senior, who cares. I did it when I was in high school, and no one even cared. In fact I dont think age ever even came up, nor did I think about it.
The main thing, is try to find someone on your level. I can say that there are 25yr olds out there (I took one out) who had no sense of life, and wanted to basically do nothing all her life though she was studying to be a nurse. This woman is not one you want to have a future with. I could find 18yr olds who had more direction than her.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.