"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"After the first date" tips?

I'mBatman

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I've always been awkward after the first date and was just wondering if anyone had any tips to share.

Details on the date if ya want em'.

We had been in contact through Facebook a few times after her mom told her she should talk to me. This girl now works at the same place I do.

I got her number and set up a date the second time we ever saw each other. We watched a movie, found out we had alot in common, then proceeded to make out vigorously and came very close to having sex (she was on her period, seriously, I felt the pad).

Now, in this case I just need to set up another date and seal this deal. But for future reference, does anyone have any tips to share for a guy who's unsure about what to do after the first date?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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COD

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well for starters the next time you talk, you might wanna ask if "AUNT FLOW" has left town in a humorous tone.

Do some fluff stuff (movie, dinner, golf, pool, drinks, dancing, mauntain climbing, flight to the moon, etc, etc) then BACK to YOUR PLACE for your dessert.

U already opened the door to sex........so just walk through......NUFF SAID......now call her up.
 

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samspade said:
It's good to have a killer mentality, but you should relax a little here and not put the cart before the horse.

A guy posted a few weeks ago about how he nearly slept with a girl on the first date. The second date, he invited her over for dinner, hoping to seal the deal by having home-field advantage. Well, she wound up having to split and meet friends later that night, wouldn't you know. The poster was incredulous. How could a woman take him to the brink of sex on Date 1 and then back off so suddenly, especially with all of the conditions being so "perfect"?

I recommend you not worry so much about outcome and focus more on having fun with her again. Something to keep her primed and interested - an activity of some kind to keep you loose and in good humor. If the signals are there and you think you can get her back to your place, go with it....but don't force it.

I'm all for the path of least resistance, but one mistake a lot of men make is assuming that seduction will follow a simple A>B>C path. Don't get me wrong - if it's been a few dates and she's jerking you around, you probably won't get any farther and should move on to other options. Just bear in mind that one way women can subconsciously gauge your Desperate-O-Meter is by escalating early and then pulling back quick to see how you react.

Wait a few days, ask her out again, plan something fun and keep your apartment lay-ready. You two work together so don't pour it on too thick at the workplace....stay cool and a tad indifferent.
Great post from Sam,
most women WANT to have sex BUt they have two pre-conditions. The first is that you are not going to pump and dump them, and the second is that tingling anticipation in her has built to the stage that any reluctance is overwhelmed by her desire.
In the pre-sex stage, her imagination is your best weapon.
 
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After the first date you must determine what do you want and feel. Remind the first date and see if you really find a connection with your partner. There's no point in pushing forward if you don't feel or see anything good in your relationships. Even though your date is very attractive if there is no connection most probable you are headed nowhere. So be sure to know yourself and what you want before making a move after the first.
 

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COD said:
Do some fluff stuff (movie, dinner, golf, pool, drinks, dancing, mauntain climbing, flight to the moon, etc, etc) then BACK to YOUR PLACE for your dessert.
This +1!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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