"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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AFC's Are Not Very Nice

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Why do dudes become AFC's, because they are (1) frightened (2) fear rejection (3) don't veiw themselves as being the prize (4) refuse to accept that some hot babes won't desire them (5) refuse to cold approach (6) will not take a risk (7) desperately desire to fvck every hot babe that comes their way though due to the above mentioned things they are really pathetic wimps who disguise themselves as being Nice Guys, yes they buy the girl flowers, worship her, kiss her feet, pretend that they don't want to fvck her, pay for the movies they watch, the food that they eat, they are liars, wolves in sheeps clothing, they Never get the fvck they are after, they Never end up getting anything at all.
DJ's are the real Nice Guys, they are (1) confident (2) bold (3) honest about the fact that they really want to fvck the girl.
Buying girls gifts is not a very nice thing to do if you want to fvck her, it is much nicer to become sexual with her as soon as you can, she then knows exactly where she stands, you also either get to fvck the girl, or quickly move on to find another who does, which is much better for both concerned.
Jocks in the High School system are fvcking the hottest babes in the changerooms or on the classroom desks, why, because of their honesty, they don't always get what they want, but they continue to reveal their true colours until they do get it.
AFC's often desire to fvck their hot babe teacher or the prettiest girl in the class, they never tell them about it, so they never get to do it.
DJ's are the true Nice Guys, forget about all of this Bad Boy always Wins rubbish that you dudes are constantly writting on here, the AFC's are the Bad Boys, the deceivers, the liars, the losers, they want to fvck those pretty girls but they are too damn wussy to fvcking ask for it. :nono:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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You didn´t have to rewrite my post and open a new thread for it :nono:
 

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Ill tell you a story how I became an AFC. Around age 8 I was at the beach and was made fun of by my chic cousin and her chic friend, I had very tight swim suit on, and my c0ck area was flat. Before that I was somewhat ok, after that I became self aware, all my limiting beliefs and fear of girls and generally interactions with the world started from that point on.

No interactions, no skills, so an AFC fvck grew up, which was teased heavily through high school. Things got better as I experienced the world through college, and then through my first job which had me traveling.

BUT, no amount of experimenting done as much as discovering DDs material, and then this site.

There was one funny - back then tragic - situation. Where I was used by a b1tch I met online, over a looser computer game, she used me a bridge to go from here to there while divorcing. I was a convinient emotional tampon, it is sad, I spend more than 6 months in a rut. All my other experiences with opposite sex had took this same exact shape. I was getting into another one, and noticed it going south again, so I looked online about advice, and by some miracle found Double Your Dating.

AFC crap starts from early on when you are rased as a sissy. I had no dad, no c0ck, titties, and fat. Plus the little interaction I got in school was put down by two b1tches, lol.





True, AFCs do all that sh1t you described. That is because, as in my case, because of lack of experiences in childhood.
 

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i was the **** until 5th grade, then definitely 6th grade. iono what happened
 

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ChrizZ said:
You didn´t have to rewrite my post and open a new thread for it :nono:
You are one of the very few smart dudes who posts on this site, many of these dudes beleive this lie that AFC's are Nice Guys and that DJ's are Bad Boys, which is very wrong.
Many of the so called AFC Nice Guys watch porn movies read playboy and think about fvcking every pretty girl they see, this is not Nice, it is deceitful fearful wussy and wimpish of them.
Bad Boys are much Nicer as they are honest bold in their approach and so the pretty girls know what they want from them.
Keep posting and keep on sarging. :yes:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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great post...totally true..

I now fully see myself correctly about where I stood and where I stand with women and what I need to do about it.
 

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If there is an AFCing of America, or sissifying of American boys and men, and all this metrosexual crap, like others have talked about, I think it's too many young men and boys being raised by mom at home, no father to be a role model, except a visit every other weekend. All these divorces and kids being raised by single mothers is causing this.
 

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rrrrr said:
If there is an AFCing of America, or sissifying of American boys and men, and all this metrosexual crap, like others have talked about, I think it's too many young men and boys being raised by mom at home, no father to be a role model, except a visit every other weekend. All these divorces and kids being raised by single mothers is causing this.
Nah I dont think so because you can have other male role models. Single mom kids aren't all like that.
 
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rrrrr said:
If there is an AFCing of America, or sissifying of American boys and men, and all this metrosexual crap, like others have talked about, I think it's too many young men and boys being raised by mom at home, no father to be a role model, except a visit every other weekend. All these divorces and kids being raised by single mothers is causing this.
"single" mother is a misnomer - sexuality and creation implies duality - twofold!!!! The homo/hor agenda made it "OK" to not have a man in the household!!! And America and the rest of the world is Fvcked because of it - The Matrix is real - wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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People aren't very nice. The world is not all sugar plums and roses. Everyone has something to be a d*ck about and some verbalize it more than others. Some AFC's simply sit quietly and wallow in their sorrow but that doesn't necessarily make them bad people. They may be better suited for other things, like the lonely guy who does my taxes. Others try to hard and when they get shot down drink to much and start bar fights out of fustration.

Still there are skilled players who are absolute trash and pretty much hate women and life in general. They'll never find satisfaction, are violent, and verbally abusive to everyone around them. That's certainly not a nice person either. Others are calm complaicent easy going people.

It's a big bad world full of lots of people folks. Lets not prejudge people before meeting them otherwise we all lose out.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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lol, seriously...

i usually don't get along real well with (other) alpha-ish males myself, altho there are exceptions

This thread definitely presents too simplistic a view.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
"single" mother is a misnomer - sexuality and creation implies duality - twofold!!!! The homo/hor agenda made it "OK" to not have a man in the household!!! And America and the rest of the world is Fvcked because of it - The Matrix is real - wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What if the guy leaves the girl after the kid is born? Not an uncommon occurance at all. There are some pretty paththetic losers out there that knock girls up and skip town.
 

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PigAdlemPimp said:
Why do dudes become AFC's, because they are (1) frightened (2) fear rejection (3) don't veiw themselves as being the prize (4) refuse to accept that some hot babes won't desire them (5) refuse to cold approach (6) will not take a risk (7) desperately desire to fvck every hot babe that comes their way though due to the above mentioned things they are really pathetic wimps who disguise themselves as being Nice Guys, yes they buy the girl flowers, worship her, kiss her feet, pretend that they don't want to fvck her, pay for the movies they watch, the food that they eat, they are liars, wolves in sheeps clothing, they Never get the fvck they are after, they Never end up getting anything at all.
Man I thought I was an afc thanks for clearing that up. Some of what you said contradicts itself. Mainly 4 refuse to accept that some hot babes won't desire them. That contradicts 3. don't view themselves as being the prize. I also learned that afc's are manipulative they act nice then get shi!tty when things don't go their way. I thought I was the same way but then I realized I only act sh!tty when people talk sh!t about me. Tell it to my face not behind my back. Anyways you are mostly correct. accept about telling a chick flat out you want to fvck her. I would use my actions to let her know I want to fvck her, but hey to each their own.
 

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True, AFCs do all that sh1t you described. That is because, as in my case, because of lack of experiences in childhood.
It was still YOU who chose to interpret those events in that way and it was YOU who didn't take action.
I don't want to blame you or something, but it wasn't the childhood you were given, it was one you choose.

(I was a total AFC myself as well untill the age of 17-18, exactly a upbringing as you described and I can recall experiences that formed that AFC back then, but still, it was in how interpreted and reacted to those situations, not the situations themselves)
 
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One useful insight into this is the distinction between assertive and aggressive communication styles.

AFCs are actually quite aggressive, contrary to belief. They are always shocked to be rejected. One minute you're the cat's meow, but if you reject them you're just a "mean *****." Well, maybe she just wasn't that into you.

DJs are really better people. They're in tune with their desires, but they communicate them. By "playing games" they're actually treating people's time with respect, not demanding a call every ten seconds because they don't have anything better to do. They give the gift of "missing oneself" knowingly and deliberately. They let rejection roll off their back like water off a duck. And, by being more comfortable with themselves and what they want, they are more attractive because they are better people.

A good DJ is not nearly as much of a user as an AFC, who is always looking for an emotional rescue from the "girl of his dreams." These guys put too much pressure on chicks and often are manipulative in a sniveling, passive-aggressive way.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Last Man Standing said:
"single" mother is a misnomer - sexuality and creation implies duality - twofold!!!! The homo/hor agenda made it "OK" to not have a man in the household!!! And America and the rest of the world is Fvcked because of it - The Matrix is real - wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!! None of these so called single mothers rightfully divorced their husband who was cheating on them so they're all hors!!!!!! Umm......... No wait. Yeah some of them did; quite a lot of them actually :nervous: Oh crap, a lot of them also lost a husband in the Iraq war too, not to mention natural causes!

The male chauvinist matrix has you LMS!
 
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