speed dawg said:
Theoretical question here.
Assuming the divorce rate is 50%, and assuming 75-90% of those were filed by the woman, and assuming 75-90% of men out there are AFCs in this day and age. It can also be assumed that women make out noticeably better in divorces. It can be blamed on the liberal pro-feminist court system. It can be blamed on men letting this happen. Maybe both.
In my experience, I've noticed ALOT of men get taken to the woodshed in divorces because:
1) They cheated, and court sides favorably against a cheater.
2) AFC men keep alive the hope that one day the woman will have a change of heart and come back to him, so they are as nice as possible, giving up lots of things to either get it over with or try to win back the woman, which we all know just fuels ego and drives her to be even more greedy, in which the court eats the man alive. The man is left thinking it was all his fault, his quality of life in decreased and the woman's is increased, at least on the outside.
Could #2 be a result of the fact that most men DO NOT FIGHT BACK in the courtroom, because of AFCness and the HOPE that they will win the woman back one day? Delusion frequents this forum, esp. when you see posts like "She cheated, what should I do??????" all day long.
Could getting fukked over in court be directly correlated to a HUGE sense of delusion? Opinions welcome, esp. from divorced guys......
I have no idea why the mentality on marriage failure is always seemed to be pushed onto the male.
Even desd' post seems to throw blame towards the male, blaming him for the break-down of the marriage.
Granted the Male is to blame, but to what degree? Is it 100% the mans fault a marriage does not work?
Well according to some, yes it is, but I don’t buy that shi*, why well I have been married and currently going through a divorce atm, one that I MADE HAPPEN, not some women I was with, so where am I in that statistic and if I was to take the blame for all my wifes fuc* ups, it would drive me nuts.
Now this is just a personal response to the way I see it, now lets look at the AFC mindset and the male bashing ideal of ‘it’s the mans fault’.
Marriage is when two people that fall in love decide to tie the Knot.
Now there are loads of rules of what to do:
Things like:
Date for a few years.
Makes sure your women is so and so.
e.t.c
but what people fail to see is marriage is fundamentally a man made culture a system made up by men and women who fundamentally imo where and are AFC’s.
Now I am not making a stab at the average married man, if some guy wants to stay with one women then that’s his business, but a MANS true nature imo is to spread the seed of love and make sure his genetic pool is as good as possible, society and social norms made marriage and the FACT in ages past a women was DEPENDENT on a male to ensure her kids grow up to be healthy, so in that we can see the interest in MARRIAGE is clearly in the WOMENS favour and was, but probably not anymore.
Now granted love can last a long time and that can over-ride the need to spread the seed, but unconditional love is not possible with a stranger, this is only possible with family, love with another person outside of the family context can and does break down.
And low and behold people get BORED of marriage and routine, now I suppose this is also the mans problem, that a marriage went stale?
I am sick to death of the constant male bashing in the form of marriage and break up, it is not the MANS fault AFC, BLUE jubilee or Pink eliphentitats or what ever condition people want to lable to keep up the attack on the male front, marriage is and does break down with a 50/50 break down.
Yes statistics prove women initiate divorce, but they don’t cover the part where the MAN walked away from the marriage and did not want to peruse a divorce until he felt comfortable, i.e like my example and many others. Women initiate divorce in that respect to get ONE back on the man who just walked out on her lack of support in a marriage, but I guess this is the man’s fault?
As for divorce, an alpha male looks after number one or if people want to deam it Alpha, a smart man knows how to not get screwed and only an AFC would allow himself to be at the mercy of some bitc* he just walked out on, or not recognize the marriage is going no-where.
The term AFC linked to marriage:
AFC to me n marriage is a guy who:
Thinks he as to stay in a bad relationship due to a social expectation and norm: which covered pier pressure from guys and women that he is a failure due to the marriage not working.
AFC goes into marriage just to be married.
Also I am surprised at the quote:
A man who supplicates to his women is out of marriage.
This to me is total BS, the most successful marriages going the man is a total bitc* slave, FACT. The ones that break down are in essence attributed to the MAN not complying with a demented women who can’t handle her emotions for 3days per month and who’s live revolves around what she FEELS. Some guys think: Hey what the hell am I married for? Most marriages are in fact a man being a supplicating wimp to the constant demands of women:
Now I have been in MANY relationships and been married also, so I think I am more qualified then most to put an opinion on here.
Most men I know who are married are in it for the kids only, even then some get out, women may initiate divorce but the fact is there is a % that do it based on a need to get back at the man who as clearly lost interest in shag*ing the same steak and dinner sandwich each day.
AFC is not a guy who is divorced, on the contrary an AFC is a guy who remains married to a women who is clearly not worth spending your life with, granted sometimes it takes the BRIDGE of marriage to see some truths about the other partner but still, a MAN is not at fault of the fuc* ups in marriage.
Incidently any man who can tolerate the average crap from a women this day and age needs a fuc8ing medal tbh about it, marriage you would have to be a saint or find a women worth keeping, grats to the guys who have found a decent women, but the fact is:
Women love to shop and spend the money, yours or hers.
Women are usually demanding for attention and expect some form of couple ideals, or trust me you will pay in different ways.
Women are drama focused and love attention spun from drama.
The average women in the western society as a lax attitude to cheating and sex, on a par with the male.
There are no religious bonds or chains to bide by any more, hence a further foundation weakened.
There are many women out there willing to offer men sex even in marriage and actually see a married man as a CHALLENGE to get him.
All in all marriage is a fuc8ing joke, granted some can glorify it if there married, but I have been there wore the T-shirt and I will never ever do it again.
If that makes me an AFC then I will wear the badge with pride
STOP the MALE BASHING IN MARRIGE FFS.
As for divorce preccedings, a divorce is usualy nasty or nice dependent on how the other was dependent on the other partner, if that makes sense.
Say a stay at home mum would have a huge favour in divorce.
simply put you can do simple research on divorce and see alot of it is based on misconceptions on family unit, women as being sole dependent on the male or the interests of the kids and sadly the best for the kids is usually thought out to be the mother. Courts are ruled by misconceptions, but it is easy to get around them and protect one-self.
Also the stay at home guy who is SUPPORTED gets the same treatment as the women bashing that goes on in here in divorce as he was dependent on the women and looks after the kids.
The statistics are so high imo due to the fact women on average MARRY UP not down, hence they have a choice to stay at home when they give birth, which alot of men are happy about, which fundimetally can be used against the MALE.
One also does not need to be married to be a common law man and wife.
