"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

AFC Observations

mtlwlu

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 27, 2008
Messages
407
Reaction score
4
Id like to think my AFC days are behind me, anyways since coming across that term, I started to notice others at my school around campus displaying such acts. Here are my favourites:

1) Nerdy looking guy with a huge grin on his face, walking a girl home (thinking he has a chance) Girl : My books are so heavy in my bag...
AFC: Let me carry them for you

2) some first year guy (huge stereotypical skinny nerd) talking to a girl in the line up for food. He must live in the same dorm as her, they talk about some show on tv that night, the guy asks her to watch the show in the common room, (good for him) he makes more small talk (not bad) but ruins it with the high five goodbye...walks away...says to his creepy 3rd wheel buddy ("Man I Love this school...) poor guy doesnt know whats coming lol. Already in the friendzone.

Post your AFC observations...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

mtlwlu

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 27, 2008
Messages
407
Reaction score
4
By giving a girl a highfive instead of a hug after first contact, I think thats setting yourself up for the friendzone right away. friends high five, potential partners at least hug.
 

FirstInstinct

Don Juan
Joined
Sep 21, 2008
Messages
41
Reaction score
2
So you're saying something as trivial as a handshake can make or break a relationship?

No, that sounds like overanalyzing to me. Ever read Senor Fingers' post, Shattering the Limits? He acted like a total AFC at times in this one experiment, giving out compliments, using AFC lines, etc. and still managed to get the girl.

All about inner game and how you carry yourself man.
 

oakraiderz2

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 26, 2002
Messages
4,626
Reaction score
28
Age
40
Location
Colorado
mtlwlu said:
By giving a girl a highfive instead of a hug after first contact, I think thats setting yourself up for the friendzone right away. friends high five, potential partners at least hug.
Thats because youre a rookie. Girls love high 5s, friend.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

Read more...

daygameguy

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 17, 2008
Messages
996
Reaction score
27
Location
NY
If all your game is smalltalk, and then your close is a High-Five, your are shooting yourself in the foot.

But if your game is pure attraction based, with good kino, and ending it with a good high five is not bad at all.
 

mtlwlu

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 27, 2008
Messages
407
Reaction score
4
exactly, he looked like a warcraft nerd, had a creepy friend watching him talk to the girl, it was all small talk, with an awkward high five at the end, if you saw it, youd definately agree it was an AFC. Point is I notice AFC moves now that Im aware of what they are.
 

daygameguy

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 17, 2008
Messages
996
Reaction score
27
Location
NY
mtlwlu said:
exactly, he looked like a warcraft nerd, had a creepy friend watching him talk to the girl, it was all small talk, with an awkward high five at the end, if you saw it, youd definately agree it was an AFC. Point is I notice AFC moves now that Im aware of what they are.
lol NEVER have a creepy friend watch you and your girl talking :) I was in that situation once, and I could see her being so uncomfortable.

And I wish I knew, at the very least, what is straight up AFC behavior, when I was in high school.. I wasted so many years being a total AFC.. but better late than never... at least I know what I'm doing now :)
 

mtlwlu

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 27, 2008
Messages
407
Reaction score
4
Amen brother.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

Read more...

slickaz

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 14, 2008
Messages
691
Reaction score
28
ive had girls hi five me at the end of our conversation and i usually gently hold on to her hand..dont let it go..lol..n i run my fingers on my knuckles while holdin her attention with my conversation...kino? i dunno..it seems to work ok..
 
Top