"AFC" maybe to harsh

[Thatfeel21]

From reading posts and analyzing my own behaviors, ive realized a decent amount of people on this website aren't particualrly "afcs" but decent/smart/average people with common women problems.. it seems like if you aren't a DJ then your'e an afc...
but no/nah/not at all, i digress...some ppl (like me) have general sucess with females but want to simply have more slash 'almost flawless' sucess with women..
who else feels me on this?

 

[Jitterbug]

Well, I agree with you. When I started reading PUA/DJ materials, I wasn't an AFC. As in, I had a few relationships, could attract some women, was a social fun guy around everyone including women and did OK in general. I never had an one-itis, never got stuck in a Friend Zone nor got LJBFed nor got duped into being some biatch's emotional tampon / cab driver / mobile ATM. I wasn't a natural but I didn't have most of the major AFC problems. The only main thing I had in common with AFCs was that I didn't get laid as often as I'd like (no different to most guys anyway). I just wanted to get better at the game and attract hotter / higher quality women, and become a better man overall. Now I have much better successes with women but I don't consider myself good enough to be called a DJ. So there, I've never been an AFC nor a DJ.

 

[Bible_Belt]

aren't particualrly "afcs" but decent/smart/average people with common women problems

The A in AFC stands for 'average!' Do you want to be average? I don't. Average is having only one women, if that, and probably being whipped. Average is all the guys who spend money on women who then call me for sex. Never accept being average; that is not the dj way.

 

[SinJester]

Definately wasn't harsh for describing me when I got here. If you think about it, to get here people have to have been looking up girl tips on the internet...

 

[Thatfeel21]

The only main thing I had in common with AFCs was that I didn't get laid as often as I'd like (no different to most guys anyway). I just wanted to get better at the game and attract hotter / higher quality women, and become a better man overall. Now I have much better successes with women but I don't consider myself good enough to be called a DJ. So there, I've never been an AFC nor a DJ.

Thats exactly where I lie.. a lot of posts on these boards are way to sorry for me to even read..but at the same time i'm try to get with a a broad that i can be happy with from looks to body to personality...but its hard like a chinese arithmetic equation...

 

[everywomanshero]

I think it makes a lot of guys feel superior to get on the Internet and talk about how all other guys are 'AFCs' lol

 

[TheHumanist]

aren't particualrly "afcs" but decent/smart/average people with common women problems

The A in AFC stands for 'average!' Do you want to be average? I don't. Average is having only one women, if that, and probably being whipped. Average is all the guys who spend money on women who then call me for sex. Never accept being average; that is not the dj way.

Good point about pointing out that AFC stands for average so by its denotation it sould fit acceptably... but by connotation, you must admit that is said in much much more derogatory light. By name it says the normal/average, by meaning it says loser as in like failure in life type not just the lighter sense in an insult.

I sort of agree, perhaps AFC has been thrown around too much.

 

[Dongfu]

I believe Recovering AFC is the transition title between AFC and DJ, but whatever. Almost everyone still has AFC qualities remaining somewhere. They just might not have met a challenging enough girl lately to feel those qualities groan.

 

[LeComteDeMonteCristo]

I personally don't like to use the terms "AFC" and "DJ".

I do not like how people on this site throw these terms around so that everyone and everything is categorized into two neat little pockets to the point where even inanimate objects and items of pop culture are labeled "AFC."

It should simply be a dichotomy used for the sake of newbies in the community to differentiate between what they are and what they could be. Simply a means to show them that there is another way.

For me, it is all about the mindset. There is no such thing as an "AFC" look or an "AFC" set of behaviors. It matters not whether he makes the decision to wear a certain piece of clothing or makes the decision to buy a woman a drink. All that matters is the mindset behind those decisions. The only distinction I would make between an "AFC" and a "DJ" is in the way they view the world and more importantly themselves.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

The bulk of the "community's" terminology is derived for lack of better terms. AFC fits, not because it's particularly descriptive, but guys who are AFCs or have been AFCs, or exhibit the behaviorism and mindset of AFC know one when they see it. We're aware in others and ourselves of what the Qualities of the AFC are. Just like PUA or DJ this is just terminology used to describe broader behaviors, mental schema and beliefs.

 

[DonGorgon]

Well as the shortage of females gets worse competition among men ... women will become more picky and hold men to higher and higher standards and there will be more losers of FCs than winners as time goes on.

So as men we will need to get better looking, have more money and better game to get the same ore a lower quality of women

 

[everywomanshero]

Well as the shortage of females gets worse competition among men ... women will become more picky and hold men to higher and higher standards and there will be more losers of FCs than winners as time goes on.

So as men we will need to get better looking, have more money and better game to get the same ore a lower quality of women

That's not a very optimistic attitude!

 

[DonGorgon]

That's not a very optimistic attitude!

oh sorry i forgot to mention that i am not an optimist I am a dedicated realist...

But if you want to be optimistic you can blieve the govt stats that say there are 3 women to every 1 man in america....LOL

 

[JackPrescott]

From reading posts and analyzing my own behaviors, ive realized a decent amount of people on this website aren't particualrly "afcs" but decent/smart/average people with common women problems.. it seems like if you aren't a DJ then your'e an afc...
but no/nah/not at all, i digress...some ppl (like me) have general sucess with females but want to simply have more slash 'almost flawless' sucess with women..
who else feels me on this?

You are an Average Frustrated Chump if you kiss women's asses outside of the bedroom. When you can kiss a woman's bare naked ass, on the way to a session of cunnilingus after a night on the town, you are a DJ.

 

[tick37]

From reading posts and analyzing my own behaviors, ive realized a decent amount of people on this website aren't particualrly "afcs" but decent/smart/average people with common women problems.. it seems like if you aren't a DJ then your'e an afc...
but no/nah/not at all, i digress...some ppl (like me) have general sucess with females but want to simply have more slash 'almost flawless' sucess with women..
who else feels me on this?

Do you know what it means to be AFC, and how a woman will never stay around as long as you are AFC? Don't be in denial, but find out what it actually means. Your life is your own, and you should want the best for yourself. Don't ever accept less. Life does have it's ups and downs, but how would you know the ups if you never experienced the downs. Always kick off the dust and push forward. With women, who cares, right? It's not about them. Express that you want the best for yourself, and you won't accept less.