"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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AFC Girls?

Aresx

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Ever notice how girls tend to be really AFC?

I'm not a DJ yet, but when I'm with my LTR I tend to be more DJ-ish naturally. I'm stand-offish, I have a busy life, I rarely call her etc. Then she gets super clingy and s.hit. Although the attention is nice, it's annoying after a while...

Do a lot of girls do this? Are there DJ girls, and do you guys prefer that - or do you get tired of THOSE games, as well?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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disciple

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Girls are attracted to guys that reverse the game and play the female game on them (acting hard to get, being busy, not giving too much attention or time, etc.) If there are AFC guys then there has to be AFC girls also. I think the biggest difference is that the AFC guys make it much more obvious that they are AFC's but because females don't have to approach or be as aggressive as guys do, an AFC girl can use this to "hide" her AFC-ness so to speak. Trust me, there are alot of girls out there that are just as bored, frustrated, and lonely as alot of guys are but they just hide it much better and are good at giving the appearance of not being an AFC.
 

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dude you make me laugh...

seriously, but i'm not here to brag... just cuz i have one LTR doesn't mean jack... still not a DJ... whatever I got was out of luck, and just a LITTLE bit of skill

seriously, though... what do you do? what is better?

on one hand you have the girl that wants you to call 10x a day, misses you like crazy, gets upset when you don't call her, wants to be with you 24/7, and she wants ALL of your attention (not an attenion *****, if you give her attention you'll actually get pu$$y)... total AFC, nice and ego-boosting, but really annoying and pushes the guy away

on the other hand, you have the DJ-type girl, yet she plays all the games you do. dates other guys, plays "phone tag" with you, occaisionally flakes, does kino, teases, but doesn't really invest a lot of time or value into you.

what's better?
 

Porky

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AFC girls are better. You have all of the control.

DJ girls are fun for a couple of weeks until their games annoy you and you throw out their numbers.

then again, I'm a guy who likes the conquest, not the chase.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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yes but what if she doesn't want you to have much of a life outside of her? this girl gets upset if ignore her at parties... which i don't, i'm just mingling.

the AFCness is nice for the ego, but man, the clinginess... yikes.

would you guys still pick that?
 

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Probably not. It seems nice at first. But wouldn't it bring out the AFC in the guy? Her AFCness would make you feel obligated to reciprocate her actions. With a DJ girl, she respects your game and you respect hers. Plus you feel like you've earned the booty instead of just finding a desperate slizzo.
 

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I find AFC girls damn boring after awhile.

I find clingly people annoyin as ****, and a clingly girl (as much as its nice for the first few weeks) that gives alot of attention, just gets boring.

I also don't like DJ Women that are all mind games/controllers.

Thats why you gotta keep datin to find one in the middle, they are out there.
 
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