"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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afc girls?!?!

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I dont know how to word it out, but I've noticed that out of all the girls I talk to at school, there are those girls who are just plain innocent or just plain socially retarded lol. I know that they are not playing it safe because I know that these girls are inexperienced. They are not very receptive to my flirty and sometimes sexual jokes where normal girls would laugh about and go with. It is kind off a turn off to me. What do you guys think? Have you met any girls like these? are they even worth the pick up?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yes there are girls who don't know how to flirt, and are stupid. Be blunt with them. personally, i don't go for them because i don't like stupid people
 
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AlexLefty said:
Yes there are girls who don't know how to flirt, and are stupid. Be blunt with them. personally, i don't go for them because i don't like stupid people
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Hahahah, brutal.
 
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I'm at college and while I don't have that much experience (all guys high school for 4 years), the past 2 months I have been experimenting with people. I'm really popular here and I can form great conversations with them.

However, I have definitely noticed that girls at my college are boring and don't try to carry conversations. I guess you can call them afc girls, and it's really annoying because I waste energy and time on them and they are dull.

The best way I found to meeting girls is by meeting girls in my social circle. When I talk to a girl in class and we don't have anything in common at the start, they don't respond well. However, if a girl has a mutual friend with me who introduces both of us, it shows I am a popular person and she wants to know who I am. If a guy has no friends then he is not going to be viewed positively.
 
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What a waste of a beautiful face... Thanks, my question is answered. And the mutual friend thing is really effective for me right now. I used to not talk with these girls who were my friend's friends because I was cynical and partly antisocial, but now I did not even have to be introduced to talk to them. However, they are cynical about me probably because they still view me as an AFC. One girl on that group is pretty attractive, but shes just an AFC herself. The rest are fine, but they are cynical.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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jericg said:
What a waste of a beautiful face... Thanks, my question is answered. And the mutual friend thing is really effective for me right now. I used to not talk with these girls who were my friend's friends because I was cynical and partly antisocial, but now I did not even have to be introduced to talk to them. However, they are cynical about me probably because they still view me as an AFC. One girl on that group is pretty attractive, but shes just an AFC herself. The rest are fine, but they are cynical.
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The biggest thing is a first impression from my experience.
People at college think I am a fun and crazy, extroverted, and confident guy.
However, the people at my high school thought of me as the complete opposite. They thought I was boring. It doesn't matter if I made any adjustment to my personality (like I did the junior year of my high school), because they still thought of me as a boring guy (or a try-hard).

I took a public speaking course which helped me talk to people with emotion, even if I have nothing in common with people they all still like me at college.

I try to avoid AFC girls because they don't know how to form conversations and it's just a waste of time, and I think you should do the same. If they are not motivated enough to talk to a fun guy like me, then **** it I'd rather talk to more fun girls instead.
 
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I think I feel the same way, cococrispy. I like to think that my high school classmates right now think of me more of a confident guy, but i know that in their head, im just a background person. They do go with my new vibe, but the first impression has stayed with them. Hopefully, I take a similar path to college. I can hardly wait.
 
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However, I have definitely noticed that girls at my college are boring and don't try to carry conversations. I guess you can call them afc girls, and it's really annoying because I waste energy and time on them and they are dull.
 
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Well, my advice to you would be to leave the good girls alone and stick to the sluts who welcome your "sexual jokes". Leave the good girls for the good guys who have respect.
 
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Well, my advice to you would be to leave the good girls alone and stick to the sluts who welcome your "sexual jokes". Leave the good girls for the good guys who have respect.
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WHERE is this forum heading?!!!.......
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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