"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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AFC friend gets *hot* girl

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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not all girls want a non-afc. just like all guys dont want a super femenin girl. its also possible that she's only hot to you. or that ur friend is pulling some **** you dont know about. maybe he's only afc with guys but not women. like he's submissive to guys so you think he is with girls too.

or she is attracted to his honesty and innoncence. women really do want emotuinlal support and that comes best from a friend. if their bf is as good a friend as any girl she know, then thats just another reason to stay with him.

hell, i've got a really hot girl (blonde, blue eyes, hourglass figure, smarter t han i am, extremely witty and personable, good family, etc etc) and im a skinny ass guy who has maybe 2 real male friends. im shy and quiet. lack confidence. had real depression. everyone calls me a "nice guy". whatever...she loves me.
 

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steve12b said:
not all girls want a non-afc. just like all guys dont want a super femenin girl. its also possible that she's only hot to you. or that ur friend is pulling some **** you dont know about. maybe he's only afc with guys but not women. like he's submissive to guys so you think he is with girls too.

or she is attracted to his honesty and innoncence. women really do want emotuinlal support and that comes best from a friend. if their bf is as good a friend as any girl she know, then thats just another reason to stay with him.

hell, i've got a really hot girl (blonde, blue eyes, hourglass figure, smarter t han i am, extremely witty and personable, good family, etc etc) and im a skinny ass guy who has maybe 2 real male friends. im shy and quiet. lack confidence. had real depression. everyone calls me a "nice guy". whatever...she loves me.
not comenting on ur opinion, but dude, u r not a DJ, u r just another lucky AFC... if u say u r shy, quiet and 'nice'.....
 
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Why is it so hard to believe that he is a nice guy and she "wanted" to know him a bit more?".. The "stud" she was with(now just a friend) was probably a real jerk and she was tired of it.

I see a TON of guys around that are skinny, kinda scuzzy, but they have some of the cutest girls I have ever seen ... I ask myself quite a bit "How in the heck did that guy get that girl" I have to say that it gives me hope.

Maybe it's because the "cute-Jock type" sometimes let it get to their heads that they are studs..ect ect, and expect the girls to worship him and he in turn acts like an ass treating the girl with disrespect.

I admit younger girls brush that attitude away, so they can just be with a cute guy, but after a while they get tired of the B.S. from a swelled up ego of a StudMuffin.

A lesser attractive guy(like myself) don't have this ego... I rely on just being the best I can and when I see a hot chick I just smile and say candid things.. I don't act all macho and that my Sh!t don't stink...
Girls like to be respected and not treated like they are owned or used.... If you're a guy that can notice that, then yeah, in the long run you will be the guy that gets the hot girl... Looks get old, but respect, and admiration for someone never gets old..

Stop trying to make yourself feel better with people telling you that this "AFC" is just a "side-Plate" for that hot girl... Maybe she actually has feelings for him, and thinks he's a real nice guy who treats her like a "person" not a "hot chick"
 
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steve12b said:
hell, i've got a really hot girl (blonde, blue eyes, hourglass figure, smarter t han i am, extremely witty and personable, good family, etc etc) and im a skinny ass guy who has maybe 2 real male friends. im shy and quiet. lack confidence. had real depression. everyone calls me a "nice guy". whatever...she loves me.
Glad you shared that, gives the rest of us hope...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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