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[Jamo]

Went clubbing last night with two good buddies (lets call them A and B), and got a table (that always seems to be a chick magnet ) at one of the top clubs here in Moscow. I lucked out and practically got the hottest girl in the club (HB 10, she is frequently at this club) and her friend (HB 7) to our table. I noticed that the HB 7 was the dominant girl. B started working on the HB 7, and things were going pretty well with the HB 10 - I was doing all the C & F and kino (and dancing alot). Got her abit wasted and she started making out with me (with tongue). At around 5 am we (us guys) decided to try and take them back to out place. B had already taken the number of the HB 7, but I had not taken the HB 10s number. Long story short B left me with A (apparently to have a few quick parting drinks with some other friends in the club) and the two babes at the entrance. At this point I was totally wasted, so conversation was out of the question, and I was making all the effort to seem in control of myself. After 10 minutes of waiting for that idiot B HB 7 (at least that is what I understood), decided that it was time to go home...without us...so HB 10 said bye etc (I was only able to come out with why you leaving? *wink*)...she got into the cab with her friend and sent my flying kisses. Since I have seen her a few times at the club I decided not to ask for her number, since it would have come out awkward at that moment and I decided that there would be a better occasion to do so. Was that a good move? (if this post seems incoherent, it is probably because I am still wasted after 1.5 bottles of vodka :cheer: )

 

[flexion_]

Well you aren't going to get much further until you get her phone number.

 

[Jamo]

Well yes and no

Swampwiz. Moscow is as developed as say New York....10 years ago what you are saying would have been true true. Moscow women are known for their b1tchiness (but yea Id say still abit less than those from other Western countries). If you go outside Moscow yea it is really really easy. But I don't have a chance to spend much time out there.

Most of these "mail order" types that go abroad are not from moscow, and if they are they are from the real low end of the spectrum.

 

[Jamo]

small update

My dear buddy B had the "bright" idea of calling up the HB 7 (and her friend - HB 10) today around noon to have a drink this evening (with me). I had told him it was a bad idea to call up so soon, especially since they had walked off last time, and nevertheless asking for a "date" the same day is most probably going to get a negative response. Plus I thought it would have been better for me to "bump" into her (HB 10) some other time, see how it goes, take her number and invite her out some other time myself. But he INSISTED that he knows how Russian girls work and it is'nt so hard....

....Well he did indeed get a negative response...the HB 7 told him that she was working but maybe she/they might be free later in the evening and that he should call again (what is this a job interview?!?!). Like a moron he did just that later in the evening. And it gets worse (and im not too clear on this point but still), somehow it got mentioned that HB 10 is not "sure" that she likes me...wtf? HB 7 then tells him to call her up "later" during the week...(who does this fugly primadonna take herself for?)

Anyway, I think this is totally unfixable at this point, and if I am wrong please correct me. Would it be prudent to give her the total cold shoulder if I see her again, or pretend that I did not hear about this little remark? (but naturally really tone down my interaction nevertheless)

 

[Jamo]

*bump*

*bump*

 

[RedPill]

These chicks have their defenses up so you aren't getting an honest reaction. You can see if they're game with you but you need to distance yourself from your buddy because he's vaginating all over the interaction.

BTW why are you having your friend trying to broker a date with these girls anyway? That sounds pretty ridiculous.

 

[Jamo]

well

I did not ask him to "setup" a date....it was his idea (he wanted to see the HB 7 anyway) and he was damn insistant on trying it, even when I told him it was going to backfire...and it did. I had not taken her number on purpose in the first place, as I realized that I had made a few afcish mistakes (so to appear not too interested I did not ask her for her number).

Anyway what has happened has happened. Now my question is how (if at all) I can take this forward. She does come to this club quite often and Im sure I will bump into her this weekend.

 

[RedPill]

Wait a couple weeks. Act as if you've never met her before. Be ballsy. Get her emotions all going. Bust her. Qualify her. Etc. Start over and do it the right way, without your friend being around. She probably won't even know who you are.

 

[Jamo]

Thanks for the tip....only problem is that is my fav club where I go almost every weekend...