"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hi, I'm a long time browser and a first time poster. I've read multiple articles, and have taken it upon myself to learn the ways of the Don Juan. I think I may have found a place where the rules may not apply the same way, and because of this little blunder I think I'd like a little bit of help.

To understand the situation, you'd need the backstory. I started going to my current church because I was dragged there by a cute girl. Now, I had no complaints. But with time, I became a full time member by my own will. Now, this cute girl has since gotten a boyfriend and all, so I'm usually at church without female companionship.

Recently, however, I've taken a liking to a certain girl at the church. Now, this wouldn't be much of a problem ordinarily, but this girl is extremely religious and conservative. While I'm not NEARLY the sexual conservative she is (she swims in a friggin' dress), I'm still attracted by something about her. I'd like to give it a god, if you will, and see how things turn out.

How would I do this? Is her religiosity is a serious barrier to the DJ bible? I'd appreciate a bit of help :D

My current plan has been to ask if I could get to know her better and ask her either to lunch or mini golf (with a friend perhaps to make things less confrontational), all the while sending out some light kino. I can't really invite her to hang out with any more than one of my friends because they cuss like sailors. So, do I go it alone, or have one friend come? And, how would you guys recommend I approach this (keeping in mind religiosity)?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I used to go to youth service every Friday and some of the girls I thought would have never gave away their virginity (especially, ESPECIALLY our leader) did have sex. Of course they regretted it later, but I think it shows that if you push the right buttons, their sex drive will override their religious beliefs.

All you have to do is play your cards right.
 
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Thanks for the quick reply.
Well glad to hear you think there's a hope of getting the bad thing done despite religiosity, though I'd like to underline that's not all I'm interested in... And what types of buttons do I need to push/ cards do I need to play? All the usual, or would you think I have to severely modify my game for the situation?

Any specific tips would be appreciated greatly :D
 

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Behind every shy, reserved girl is a freak waiting to get out. It's easy to be intimidated by the sheer number and force of her inhibitions, but when the right kind of prodding, you can get them to open up. During high school, I had a knack for attracting shy and reserved girls unintentionally. It takes time and some alpha behavior. You may have to lead the interactions a lot, but over time, you'll gain her trust and she'll learn to be more comfortable around you.

The key is to always push the limits, but keep things comfortable.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Dank Juan said:
Freudian slip,
Or extreme arrogance? :cool:
Oh wow. That was a slip :crackup: Or maybe a combination of the two...;)

Now, I think I may have made a critical error in this situation or I've opened up a new opportunity... I'm not sure which yet. We both have a very good mutual friend (happens to be her best friend and my best female friend), and I told her what was up. She wants to spill the beans and put in a good word for me as well.

Is it a good thing, or a bad thing that her friend is helping me out here?
 

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First if she dosnt want to make with the sex is it realy fair to manipulate her into it? (that realy was the best way i could think to put it)

just seems disrespectfull, and rather cruel to do that to a person.

But being a christian myself id say go for it, just sense where the line is from how she responds, christians are allowed to date. Most of us have christian ancestors, and if they didnt meet up at some point we wouldnt be here.

If you date her and shes still holding back, and you cant, it would be fairer to move elsewhere.
 
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Well mate, as I said before my primary objective here is NOT to nail her. I actually like her for the kind, beautiful person she is. Now, while that'd make it all the sweeter, that's not what I'm after. I'm after a relationship in this case. Which may or may not be viewed as a mistake here, but its me goal.
 
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