Advice on these new beliefs iv found myself with

[Chev.Chelios]

Hey guys, so again, most of you may know my situation..

- Single dad
- broke up with girl 15 months ago
- on and off fvcking, nc alot of the time
- swirl of mind games that sent me into near suicidal depression
- learned quite a fvck load from red pill, rational male.. have alot of questions

Earlier when I got off work I stopped at a coffee stand, the kid at the window was a 19 year old, him and me got to talying and turns out he dated a single mom for a couple months and it was the usual shtick.

- Divorced 23 year old girl with a child.
- dumped and divorced her husband (unknown reasons, could have been a dirt bag or a good guy that got played)
- says the ex husband was devastated and severely fvcked. (The dudes family fell apart totaly understandable) and the mom is now fvcking a 19 year old little chit that has ZERO investment with her.

While the ex is ripped and gutted, with his whole life invested into this girl, she goes for a younger dude, childless, coffee stand job, just an ordinary college kid.

This triggered me and my heart went out to that guy because THAT'S ME!!

Now what is the solution to this mess?

How should guys that get devastated over losing they're girl and at the same time she takes his child to another mans house handle this?

Iv been going through this for 15 months now and I'm at the end of my rope. The only thing left for me to believe is that when the girl leaves and takes the child with to another man's cave, the only option is cut everything off immediently..
I didn't do this.. at first when my investment (the girl) left my cave because I was really just a lazy ******* I'll admit.

I doubled down my investment to get her back, over and over again, each time gutting me deeper, and deeper..

- gave her all my emotional energy 100% of it, I couldn't work, go work on my social life, leave town, spend money on myself because I used it all on her to get her to come back

- I dumped all my time, money.. EVERYTHING into this girl to try and fix things.. while I'm doing this she's probably getting fvxked by 19 year college dropout dipchit that invests NOTHING AT ALL, instead he takes what he wants from her!

This has got to be the biggest utter mindfvck one can come to grips with.
Absolutely insane.

Tldr;
When the mother Flys the coop with the kids. Cut off everything and do not invest so much as a text, if she's going to go find another provider male to take care of her, or other alphas to fvck. It won't be on your dime OR YOUR TIME.

But, the real dilemma is child support. The law requires you to invest into her. That requirement, where if not obeyed will ruin your life, if you don't pay her child support. You end up losing everything and go into debt.

this sounds really fvxked up not taking care of your kids. But in old times.

If the mother left with the kids to another man's cave that was it. You never saw them again. Unless you improved your dominant caveman ways maybe.

I make money buying and selling on Craigslist, all done in cash. Legally my income is 0.

She can't get child support from me. And surprisingly that's the way I like it.

Man needs his own trade, income, home, assets all to himself. Not regulated by a feminest government.

Man needs his freedom in every aspect of his life.

Man can not give half of everything he owns to another human(marriage)

Man should not pay child support to a woman that takes off depending on it to go to the bars every weelend suckin off the bartenders and getting laid by ripped bar rats. While Steve is at home on the weekends with little jimmy wishing his darling would return.

And yet when I go out.. I see this all.. the.. fvcking.. time.. single moms getting railed by the players while they're baby daddy's are at home doing the good deed of being the good providing daddy, absolutly crushed, I know because that was me and so many other guys I've known.

Reason why I'm writing this is because last weekend I saw my baby's mama roll into the club(while she dropped off out son with grandpal) the first thing she asks me " ohh heeeyy chev, are you going to pay the daycare bill? Plz I'm in debt"

Then she saunters off getting dirty with player boyz..

This sent me into another week of mindfvck depression.

Funny thing is to 2 minutes after she walked in, the girl i sort of cheated on her with walks in and starts bitching me out next, I had a thing with her before I got my ex pregnant.we were just barly dating officially and I snuggled and kiss this girl a little bit and she found out, causing a huge fight but she forgave me.

I havnt seen that girl for 3 years, and havnt seen my ex in a bar for a year.. they both walk in at the exact same time, they havnt even met each other before.

I'M LIKE WHAT THE FVCCKKCKKCKCKCKC
DUDE FVCK FVCKVKCMCKC

the universe is fvcking with me.
Whatevery is out there fvcking with me.
Fvck you. Who you think you areally fvcking me with like that?

I'm not going to pay child support.
I'm not going to babysit my son.
I won't let woman in my life disrespect and use me like that.

Woman are for raising the children and keeping the house in check, that's the here fvcking role.

As a man my job is to kick the world's ass and gather resources for my house that belongs to me only.

The woman and children lives in my house and is under my protection. If I can't protect them and provide resources we all die.

The woman isn't going to move into another man's home and demand resources from mine

She made the decision to go out and survive by herself. Then she better know how to do it by her own.

If a family member leaves my home, then they are out of my protection and I have no obligation to help them.

Of course today's laws are completely contrary to these beliefs.

Do these points click well with you guys? This is the end result of suffering through my breakup and losing my son.
Just wondering how the hell yo let it all go, genuinly, move on and stop pinning over someone who left. Then shames and expects me to pay for her new life.

Then threatening me with the law that enables her to survive by herself.

Men are more fvcked in today's society then one might think.

We have been stripped of our God given rights.

 

[Roober]

We are indeed. Suicide rates among young men are about 4 times as high as young women. There is a couple simple things guys can do to protect themselves...

-Don't have a fvcking kid so young! guys need to keep their ****s under control and quit knocking up women
-Don't date women who are losers! My ex makes more than me and she pays me child support. Is a woman going to leave knowing that?

That is basically it. There is a couple male birh control regiments in testing right now with Vasalgel being close to approval. If this is approved by the FDA, it is going to change the landscape completely. And likely signifcantly reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies

 

[SteR]

I sympathise, I really do, but I think the worst thing you can do is accept defeat and spend the rest of your existence being bitter.

Best solution would be to use all of this as fuel to improve your lot. If you became successful and were surrounded by beautiful women, would you really be so concerned about your ex? Probably not. Plus you can give your kid a good life, which is obviously more important.

 

[dude99]

The only way to fix this is to not participate in the problem. Easier said than done but there really is no other solution. Men always lose their assets if things don't change


Men need become scarce. Leaving women with fewer options .
Men need to stop marying women.
They need to stop giving/having kids.
Men need to stop co-habitating with women. Because the laws then view that as marriage

We have to "mgtow" or else we will continue to be siphoned dry. The courts and the law and society no longer values men/husbands so we need to go our own way.

Take their options away

 

[SteR]

The only way to fix this is to not participate in the problem. Easier said than done but there really is no other solution. Men always lose their assets if things don't change


Men need become scarce. Leaving women with fewer options .
Men need to stop marying women.
They need to stop giving/having kids.
Men need to stop co-habitating with women. Because the laws then view that as marriage

We have to "mgtow" or else we will continue to be siphoned dry. The courts and the law and society no longer values men/husbands so we need to go our own way.

Take their options away

I get what you're saying but men as a collective don't need to abstain from women totally, they just need to grow backbones and stop tolerating ****ty behaviour. By all means we should get involved with women, but just walk away when they cross boundaries.

The difficulty for most men is that they don't have as many options as women, so they cling to what they have. I think that's one of the unfortunate sides to being a man: women attract men by default ie. they don't have to do anything to find suitors. Men on the other hand have to bring value in some way, and that requires effort, which not all are willing to do.

 

[dude99]

I get what you're saying but men as a collective don't need to abstain from women totally, they just need to grow backbones and stop tolerating ****ty behaviour. By all means we should get involved with women, but just walk away when they cross boundaries.

The difficulty for most men is that they don't have as many options as women, so they cling to what they have. I think that's one of the unfortunate sides to being a man: women attract men by default ie. they don't have to do anything to find suitors. Men on the other hand have to bring value in some way, and that requires effort, which not all are willing to do.

That really was my point all along. Date. Smash. But protectyour interests and assets

Ever heard that statement "zero F_cks were given today."

That is how men must become. It is the siphon "girl what you gonna get out of him." Mentality that is driving us in that direction.

Like this example. I have a co-worker. She is divorced. I am her superior so i know what she makes. She drives a 5 liter mustang and lives comfortably on the alimony her husband has been forced to pay. I know she wouldn't be able to afford her lifestyle without him. Her licence plates are personalized saying "was his"

After her divorce and her "cha-ching" windfall at his expense as she calls it she wondered why all the guys she works with won't date her.

 

[dude99]

I nipped all of that sh*t right in the butt by getting full custody. It's honestly not an easy life and it keeps me on the run, but I like to stay busy, I pay $0 in alimony/child support, I bank more money now than I ever could with my ex, live better and more luxurious than I ever could with my ex, I drop my little girl off at school and all the hottie teachers smile and chat me up because they know I'm single.... it's not a bad life at all and I'm really enjoying it.

Meanwhile, the ex is dating little punk losers and sleeping couch to couch because half these little pricks she's hooking up with don't even have a place of their own. She keeps telling me she wants to work sh*t out and come back. My response: "Nope. Go live the life you chose. I've got my own now and I'm very happy. But hey, here's $10 for some shampoo. Go clean yourself up."

Brilliant


I love how when the branch breaks, the alway feel they can come back.