"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Advice On Sending Gifts and Long Distance Relationships

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Before I get into my main question, here is the full scenario. I am after one specific girl. She lives about 2 hours away. She was a large former client of my company and this was our frame in the very beginning. We flirted with each other through out the whole 1 year business relationship. 7 months into the business relationship, she broke up with her bf of 2 years a month after I broke up with my gf of 3 years. Our flirtatious relationship was not the reason for either of our breakups, or so I think, but it definitely got turned up after both of us were single. A few months later she flew out to come see me and be my date to a holiday party. We slept in the same bed but this was before I started studying game and nothing happened. We still had the business relationship at the time so I figured that was the reason why neither of us took it further. I flew out to see her later that month, set the frame that whatever happened that weekend it would not affect our business relationship and she replied with "What is going to happen?!" We go out that night and I show pre-selection by inviting other women friends I knew in the area to come have drinks with us. These women drive 45 minutes up to the area I was in just to have drinks with me and my target. Once my target saw this then all of a sudden all walls came down. She was grabbing my hand and holding it as if we were bf and gf. Every time I would go grab a drink for us and open up a new set of women at the bar, she would come by hold me as if she was holding onto her bf. Later that night we go back to her house, sit on the couch and watch a movie but me being a recovering AFC, I kissed her on the forehead and did not progress. The next day was her birthday and we rented a sail boat to watch the sunset with a few of her friends. That night I decided to make a move and go in for the kiss but I was uncalibrated and did not kino escalate enough before going in so she turned away and said she doesn't feel comfortable doing this and then me leave that night. I didn't try to argue logic and just went about like nothing happened. I'm pretty sure this got her attracted even more because she kept kino escalating me much more than before. I left on a plane that night and now I am left here contemplating whether I should continue pursuing or not. She has since been hitting me up more often on chat and even put together a collage of pictures from our weekend together and emailed it to me.

A little more background behind her is that she is in her late 20s and an absolute 9 or 10. Not the model or stripper type but an absolute educated professional that is conservative. She's not a super party girl but can have fun when fun is to be had. Normally I would not even sweat a female this hard but this one is definitely different and has all of the qualities I could ever want in a woman. So back to my question, I am thinking of taking the picture collage she emailed me, print it out, frame it, and mail it to her. Would this be conveying too much interest and lowering my status or would it be enough to get her thinking about what she is losing out on until the next time I see her? She doesn't have any guys doing this with her right now as they all have been complete AFCs and just spill their guts about how they feel about her. I'm looking to stay away from that strategy because I feel that it just sets up us men for failure since it puts too much pressure on women to make a decision. My goal is to get this woman thinking about me all the time and wondering what she is missing out on by not kissing me when she had the chance. Any and all recommendations on this are appreciated.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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georgie24

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such a long post and im afraid to read it and cringe at the stratagy

if someone cliffs it more then likely it would look like this:

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No gift!
Just organise another meeting, just the two of you.
But you'll have to escalate before you meet her.
Be subtly flirty in your communications, be ****y/funny and tease her a little.
You have to make her know that you're coming to town for a good time...with her. By "good time" I mean a fun night.

The fact she was holding your hand one night and then rebuffing your advances the next is a bit of a red flag but I'd give it one more go.
If she rebuffs you again, politely excuse yourself and find another woman whose IL is higher.
 

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Do not send any gift or you'll bury this thing before it starts. Take the collage as a nice gesture on her part and leave it at that.

Just take it in stride and treat this as if it's not that big of a deal. Don't put her on a pedestal. Arrange to meet with her again and test the waters with her. The part you said about her not kissing you would be something to consider going forward. I wouldn't bring it up around her, but if she did it again I would surmise that it's one of 2 things: she hasn't reached an adequate comfort level with you (your game was off), or her interest level has tanked. Either way, keep your options open and be prepared to walk on this thing if she doesn't kiss you back.
 

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Alright you guys helped tremendously! After reading some of your opinions on this stuff, I realized that I have the upper hand with the whole picture collage thing she sent and I would be losing that upper hand if I tried showing more interest by packaging it in a different way for her to place in her room. It screams too much in the long term relationship arena which ignites affection but not ATTRACTION. I want to make sure that the next time I make it out there that I pick up my balls and make some **** happen rather than playing the romantic wussy role. Looking forward to more posts from the community!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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