Advice on how to initiate sex and LMR?

[wonderer]

Was kissing a girl loads on a night out and ended up going back to hers. we were in bed together spooning and I was trying to initiate sex. I did this by asking her if she was ticklish and started lightly caressing her upper pelvis and moving my way down to her pvssy. she moved my hand and held it in hers. I tried this method 2-3 times but she wasn't having it. At one point saying "I thought you'd have better moves than this". We were also talking about sex in bed - when she lost her virginity etc, I was asking things like have you ever had an orgasm for 30 mins straight before (lol) and so on.

So my question is what are your guys "moves" into transitioning from spooning/cuddling to sex or how do you initiate generally?

What should I have done differently?

and what to do with this kind of LMR?

 

[wonderer]

bump

 

[VladPatton]

Did she want better moves so she could resist them harder? I would of left. There's no reason to be in that bed if you aren't gettin any.

That's like signing up to racing school just so you can sit in the car and never peg it on the track!

 

[Sofomore]

I used to be the master of LMR. Meaning I got it with every girl.

My methods: read up on foreplay. She isn't turned on enough. Kiss her neck. 2 steps forward, one step back. Kiss her neck, the rub her tits, back to neck. Slowly move your kisses to her boobs, back off. Tease her and make her WANT it. Do unexpected things. Take a break and start all over.

Once her shirt is off, rub her pvssy from outside her pants. Return to kissing. Slowly escalate to the point that she is begging for it.

If you reach down there 2 or 3 times and she always swats your hands (standard) then you can do a full freezeout. Go do something else. This weekend my hand was swatted by a girl if already slept with. WTF? So I went outside and smoked a cigarette. She came outside a few minutes later and asked if everything was ok. I said yea just wanted a cigarette. Got back in bed and escalated again. This time, no hand swats or resistance.

You have to make them feel good and then take it away. A freeze out should be a last resort. If that doesn't work, she simply isn't ready. It's up to you to either next her or try to put in more effort on another day.

 

[Mr Wright]

First thing, she's in bed with you for a reason, if she didn't want to sleep with you she wouldn't have put herself in that position.

Secondly, if you're going to say things like "have you ever had a 30 minute orgasm before?" you better be able to back that up. So some wack tickle escalation move isn't going to get her panties wet. I find kiss and gently sucking on her neck, whilst one of my hands is squeezing her rump is enough for her to drop the crap, you need to turn her on. If you're making out with her, it's so much easier because that in itself is arousing and unless she has a specific reason why she can't sleep with you(i.e. the painters are in) she'll probably end up banging you.

 

[wonderer]

My methods: read up on foreplay.

Tried looking around the internet but couldn't find much, could you give me some sources that I could read up on foreplay? Thanks