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Advice on a girl ive dated 3 weeks - LJBF'd

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Hello,

Long story you could skip to the parts below the capital headers. Pre-caution much beta.

So Ive met a girl at the pool 1.5 yr ago. She had a b/f back then and I wasnt focused on girls around then. I was both physically and mentally attracted tho.

She started contacting me 1-2 months ago but I flaked her. A month ago we got into contact again. That week when I was out in town and I knew she was as well I spontaneously texted her (we were chatting that morning) that I could join her to her gym for a session. So I did, had short talk etc went to the gym it was all good. We went for lunch after and after having eaten we went out for a long walk which I had to end, seemed she wouldnt any time soon and I felt it was time to go home. We decided to meet again the same night for a movie at her place(she lives alone).

Writing this makes me realize how many opportunities and failures Ive made already, what a waste yet a big learning experience. But to resume..

The movie at her place went good lying against eachother on the couch etc occasional deep stare in my eyes with a smile from her. I leave on good terms but didnt take action. (Fail #1)

Second date a day or two after, same thing basicly, she lit a scent stick prior to my arrival, we watched another movie and had some deeper conversation. She was very touchy very. Again I took no action, shy, nervous inside idk. (Fail #2)

She kept contact next date at her place again, I decided I felt feelings for her and was suffering oneitis. At the end of the date I said I had to get something off my chest(3 AM by now). I went beta, told her I was starting to really like her and this is rare for me. I noticed her ego boost a tenfold. She started th blabla so many guys want me, I dont want to hurt them. After her rant I asked so what about me and let her know im cool with any outcome I just wanted to not let the opportunity pass. She said she wanted to think about it. And asked what kind of relationship I was looking for and how long mine have lasted in the past.
When I was leaving I hugged her twice and she held me very tight like squeezing me. I followed it up with a kiss and some tongue. She had this seducted look in her eyes and wouldnt let go off my waist. (5am now btw) Said she was tired and I agreed time to go. She let me know she was expecting to hear from me.
(Epic fail #3)

One more date a few days later nothing to mention, casual, had fun not much happened. She did dress nice though. I didnt ask about the earlier stuff anymore. I would hear if so is what I figured. Only hugged her at my departure as I felt she wouldnt kiss probably. She dropped her hands off my back instead of holding onto me which was a clear sign. (Fail #4 maybe)

I went NC and a week later I walk into her at her gym. I casually said hi and went to do my thing. She came to me for short talk. I took her out to eat some chinese after. I was acting cool, indifferent and reading this forum just now, its crazy how much this works its almost stupid. She asked me after why she hadnt heard much of me I said I was busy etc. She told me to contact her more often. So I did and we arranged another date(last weekend).

The last date (last Friday) she was very touchy more so than ever. I alpha'd up a little and got touchy too stroking her legs grabbing her ass and so on. At the end of the night for the first time while I was packing to leave she was laying on her bed. We played a little pushing game or something, then she said I shouldd get my bike she was tired. I said sure on one condition, trying to get her up from bed. She refuses to get up and keeps asking why what for? I tell her a kiss and at this point get told by her that she views me as just a friend. I told her no hard feelings, that life goes on kept my head up smiled and I left.
(Fail #5, should have kissed her earlier in the date i think when i was holding her etc)

PART I NEED ADVICE :

The day after she s texting me early afternoon and she texts first( first time she does since my beta ilikeu confession fail two week ago)
Saying Hey how are you. I replied Hey fine how was your trial day at work. Long reply from her in that. I reply in a short matte after. Few hours pass and she texts me I can drop by tonigh if I like to. I told her I was going out that night, said nothing else played it cool. She insta replies(rare for her since my beta ilikeu) "Oh". I didnt reply, twenty mins later she writes "Have fun". I didnt reply again.
The next morning(yesterday) I wrote her "Sorry, I didnt see your message". To which she replied in the same hour "Oh no problem its okay" roughly translated. I dont reply to it. That evening she texted me if Im doing anything tonight? I ignored it unsure what to do and I dont know if im hopeful thinking, but probably am.

HERE WE ARE, OPTIONS I CONSIDER:

1. Go NC on her this week keepignoring.

2. Spice it up. Text her I was out yday to the movies or something with someone I met last saturday. To raise her interest. Then proceed into no contact from my side only responding in a short cool matter when she contacts me.

Im keen on option two, share your thoughts and please be real about it. In any case I learned a lot from the experiences with this girl.

I know I'm very beta by nature. But this always worked out fine for me. It just seems to be there's a smaller % of girls into beta guys than there are guys into alphas. Good thing I stumbled across this forum for a mindset change.
 
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Pardon me for spelling/grammar and the exclamation icon on this thread, I wrote it from my iPhone. I'll add my points of confusion as well, I'm unsure why she has asked me out the past 2 days after rejecting and LJBFing me. And incase there may be a possible chance to repair the mistakes I've made I was wondering which of the 2 options or another you would shoot for.
 

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Talk About Dropping the Ball

Can you please explain to ole Rex why you didn't give ole girl that "Trent Reznor," treatment?
 

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You've lost me there Ole Rex, I'm not familiar with this "Trent Rezor" treatment.
 

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You're doing OK so far. Don't open about your feelings anymore. Let her ask you about them and even then be vague when you answer. If you don't bang this chick soon, you will lose her. So, get to it!
 

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I've done almost everything wrong so far except the one time I walked into her at her gym. I've decided on no contact for the coming days, if she keeps contacting me I'll keep it short and appear busy. If she asks me out next weekend or asks my plans for it I will probably boast about already having plans with a certain someone I met last weekend when I went out.

How does that sound or do you feel like I should accept the next best invitation to her home again? I'm not planning on heading there labeled just a friend material.
 

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I don't think you're labeled as a friend yet, but could end up there if you keep doing what you're doing. She is interested in you and invites you to her house. That's a very good sign she's into you. Go no contact for a few days (reply only if she contacts you) and the next time she invites you over, go there with a bottle of wine. You can say you had a great day at work and want to celebrate. That will give you both some liquid courage and get in her pants.
 

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Thanks for your advice, thing is I ignored her text y'day asking me over. Not sure what to do now, keep on ignoring and pretend I didn't see it or get back to it saying I was busy or something and apologize.
 

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Never apologize! I'll say it again, never apologize. Text her back like nothing happened and say you had a great day at work and want to go over to her house and celebrate. You did great that you ignored her message. Raised her interest. I have this chick that I see and bang once in a while and I ignore her messages sometimes. I just don't feel like replying. Not every stupid thought that they have deserves a reply.
 

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"Not every stupid thought that they have deserves a reply." Love that one.

I'll keep on ignoring her unless she contacts me till the weekend then and see from there on what happens. Thanks for your thoughts El Suave.
 

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rayray79 said:
The movie at her place went good lying against eachother on the couch etc occasional deep stare in my eyes with a smile from her. I leave on good terms but didnt take action. (Fail #1)

Second date a day or two after, same thing basicly, she lit a scent stick prior to my arrival, we watched another movie and had some deeper conversation. She was very touchy very. Again I took no action, shy, nervous inside idk. (Fail #2)
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When I was leaving I hugged her twice and she held me very tight like squeezing me. I followed it up with a kiss and some tongue. She had this seducted look in her eyes and wouldnt let go off my waist. (5am now btw) Said she was tired and I agreed time to go. She let me know she was expecting to hear from me.(Epic fail #3)
She wanted you to do her what Trent Reznor sings at 1:04 of the song. BAD! Dude before the end of the bad is out you need to listen to

Episode 34: Stop Letting the Moment Pass – Make a Move! http://www.stoplosingwomen.com/page/7/

Episode 58: Stop Not Escalating the Situation with Her (Steps through Each Phase of the Dating Stage) http://www.stoplosingwomen.com/page/5/


You need to immerse yourself in Harry Wilington's podcasts. There's so much game there, the best part about it is that's free.
 

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Lol Rex, I wish I listened to these podcasts before I went beta. Or kept second-guessing and not make any moves. I haven't been busy with women the past 1-2 years, recently I feel ready to get back into dating. It's a shame I can't repair the mistakes I made with this girl, I realize it listening to these episodes and reading around here. It's messed up psychology how women work, but the past is the past now.

Thanks for clearing it up, I will consider this a major lesson. Shortly put: never talk sh!t about feelings, show it through actions. Don't get needy, play the game cool.

One good thing came from this though, I found this community and this forum/website is a goldmine for any man. A true treasure to stumble upon. Unless you were born Brad Pitt or Channing Tatum.
 
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