"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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LuisGarcia10

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Right.

I was out last night with a friend and on the way home we saw a girl that had been in the club we were in stumbling back, obviously quite drunk and she seemed upset about something. She was pretty hot as well and the last thing she needed in that state was to bump into a load of drunk lads, so we wanted to make sure she got home OK.

After speaking to her it turned out she lived near by me, so the three of us shared a taxi back. On the course of the taxi ride home it turned out the reason she was upset was because in the same week her brother had died ( she was only about 18/19) and he boyfriend had dumped her. Now I'd never hit on a girl as drunk as she was out of principle anyway, and I certainly wouldn't have done it when she was obviously as upset as she was. So I just got a taxi up to her house, made sure she got home OK (as this genuinely was my concern all along, I wasn't anticipating hitting on her at any stage as I'd seen how drunk she was earlier in the night,) and then walked home myself. She was obviously hysterical, as most people would be if they were drunk in that situation.

However, she did mention during the taxi ride home where she works, it's a major clothes shop in town. Now do people on here think it would be adivsable for me to go in there at some point and ask her out? Bearing in mind it's only a week since her last boyfriend dumped her and obviously as a a result of her brother she's not going to be in exactly the soundest state of mind? I don't want to be seen to be taking advantage as I'm really not, she just seemed a really nice girl and she was hot and in any other situation (ie less drunk and not in mourning) I would have asked her out.

So, essentially what I'm getting at, is, if the above happened to you would you go for it and if so how? I'm not on here to ask stupid questions about every girl I meet in a bar so don't worry, I won't flood the boards with annoying crap, but I've never dealt with a girl in this situation before and can't really see anything in the bible about it either.

All help would be appreciated, thanks.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Go in now and talk to her a little. If she remembers you, you'll have a bit of a favorable impression. [If you wait a month, she won't remember you and it will be harder to get her]. If she seems friendly, ask her out for coffee/pop to get to know her. Decide if you will be the rebound guy[and whether you care]. She'll tell you if you are moving too fast[women are Great at removing unwanted attention]
 

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sodbuster said:
Go in now and talk to her a little. If she remembers you, you'll have a bit of a favorable impression. [If you wait a month, she won't remember you and it will be harder to get her]. If she seems friendly, ask her out for coffee/pop to get to know her. Decide if you will be the rebound guy[and whether you care]. She'll tell you if you are moving too fast[women are Great at removing unwanted attention]
Yeah, I was thinking along these lines myself but wanted a few other opinions.

The fact that she works in a massively popular clothes shop is helpful as it kind of allows me to test the water without looking like a stalker or something!
 

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You'll need to strike while the iron is hot as far as setting up a date- it won't take much time for your good deed to lose value.
 

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sodbuster said:
You'll need to strike while the iron is hot as far as setting up a date- it won't take much time for your good deed to lose value.
Yeah, I was thinking Saturday as I'm pretty sure thats when she works with her being a full time student.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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