"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Advice if I should move on to this girl

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Ok, so at work there's this girl whom I have noticed for quite a while. I'm 22, and even though I don't know her age, she may be somewhere around 24-26 yrs old. I've noticed her looking at me quite a few times, and one time I made sure that she saw me looking at her. When she noticed that, we were looking at each other for at least six seconds.

I've started some shy small talk with her, and her responses were not just ''yes'' and ''no.'' When I showed something on my phone, she touched my hand to pull the phone closer to get a better view of what I was showing to her.

What should I do? She is really hawt btw.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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No.Danny

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You guys looked at each other for 6 whole seconds?? No way!!!
 

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Maybe it was closer to 4, I didn't count, maybe because she was surprised, I don't know, since it may have been a creep stare. Whatever, that thing happened at least six months ago.
 

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You should buy her a Pandora charm and chocolate and write her a really long love note.
 

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No.Danny said:
You should buy her a Pandora charm and chocolate and write her a really long love note.
Danny, man you're a funny dude but you shouldn't flame the OP or just post jokes on the thread without offering useful advice. We all start somewhere and all of us have had experiences like this guy.
Now, OP I think you should talk to this girl next time you see her and make a move. Ask for her number or ask her out. It's the only way to know if she is interested in dating you. Also don't be nervous or shy,she's just a girl and her sh!t doesn't smell any better than yours. Good luck
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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lol OP, nothing you've said means anything, positive or negative

proceed and try to get her but nothing of note has happened yet
 

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Alright, I think I may have messed up a little bit, or she may not like me at all.

So, let me explain.


I only meet her during the lunch breaks. The fact is, I never came to sit anywhere near her, because I was always in the canteen just a few minutes before her, so she came to sit anywhere near me, with only a one seat gap between us. I didn't even think about the fact that she was the one who came to sit somewhere close to me.

One time I had a 10 hour shift, and I started my work 2 hours before her. I used my overtime break at the same time when she had her lunch, but I was there only for about 8-9 minutes. She was sitting alone in the corner. I sat at an different table. Probably, because, stupid as I am, I became a little bit shy, and I thought since I would be there for such an short amount of time, it would not matter if I would chitchat with her or not. Yup, she saw me.

That was last friday. Today, she sat at an completely different table, all alone, and didn't even look at me.
I know this may mean that she didn't even like me at all, but is there a way I can be sure about this? When I see her at lunch, should I ask ''Is this seat taken?'' or smth.

I don't want to annoy her, so is that the right way to approach this situation?

I really like her. And I think that I made myself to look like a douche. She was pretty interested into talking to me before this happened.
 
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:confused: :cry: :crackup:
 

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I know that this may sound funny, but I am not sure what to make out of this. Today, other people also noticed that.

It's not like I am clingy towards her, but if it's indeed because of me not making any sort of contact that day, could that mean it's not completely hopeless?
 

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holy crap dude, you're old enough to have a job but act like I did in middle school around girls?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I don't recommend gaming female co-workers. It's hard to next them if something goes awry because, well, you have to see them and work with them. Many on this forum have touched already on the negative consequences that can occur from it. The amount of hot and beautiful women walking on this planet should not mean you need to game the women you work with.
 

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Well, I don't want to describe my job, but whatever I am doing is completely unrelated to her job, so........

But anyways, now I haven't seen her at lunch for a while, since as far as I can understand, now she is going to the canteen at different times. Probably because I didn't even greet her whenever I had the chance.
 
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