"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and complaining about what jerks guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honour of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honour of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honour of the guys who respect a girls every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the betas who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they are at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favour cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don't end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you'd ever orchestrated in CoD to rant about a rumour that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumour to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn't have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing serious between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: oh, but we're just friends. And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm beta body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you're nice like that.


...Stop being so f*cking nice.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I dont Ind them until they try to start **** while "protecting" their women from me....then they really get annoying.
 

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Women don't care how nice you are. They only care what you can do for them.

Nice guys don't get laid ONLY because they don't require sex from women in exchange for attention. Women know they can control nice guys without sleeping with them.. so they do. :crackup:

Other (smarter) men have a simple policy with women: No sex = No attention.

Nice guys are just desperate b!tches who let women run them over thinking this is a "turn on". Its just pure stupidity.
 

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Poon King said:
Women don't care how nice you are. They only care what you can do for them.

Nice guys don't get laid ONLY because they don't require sex from women in exchange for attention. Women know they can control nice guys without sleeping with them.. so they do. :crackup:

Other (smarter) men have a simple policy with women: No sex = No attention.

Nice guys are just desperate b!tches who let women run them over thinking this is a "turn on". Its just pure stupidity.
People in general wouldn't give a damn if you weren't a good guy who offers nothing.

I guess you hang around with friends who do nothing for you?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Poon King said:
Nice guys are just desperate b!tches who let women run them over thinking this is a "turn on". Its just pure stupidity.
I think you are attracting trash women, which is great for that sexual release. A+
Does it cross your mind that quality women aren't going to put out on the first date? I've been in my fair share of ONS, but they have no substance. If your goal is to get laid, this is the wrong forum for you. Anyone can get laid, but do the chicks that you bang have potential? I'm not talking about looks or ease of sex, that's not what this site is about. It's geared toward men bettering themselves, understanding that sex is not the end goal.

What do you have to offer, aside from thinking that women are all slvts and that if you don't have sex with them, they can easily dial another number? Just curious...
 

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Also, not calling you out Poon King, but what do you do on your spare time aside from hitting on chicks and working?
 
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Poon King said:
Women don't care how nice you are. They only care what you can do for them.

Nice guys don't get laid ONLY because they don't require sex from women in exchange for attention. Women know they can control nice guys without sleeping with them.. so they do. :crackup:

Other (smarter) men have a simple policy with women: No sex = No attention.

Nice guys are just desperate b!tches who let women run them over thinking this is a "turn on". Its just pure stupidity.
One of my female friends were like "all the 'nice' guys are taken". But I think when she says that she means reliable bf's and husbands, not "nice" as per sosuave.net forum speak.
 

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Its obvious you're a woman.
Its obvious youre a basement dwelling mgtow recluse railing against nature because natural selection has weeded you out. You have obviously suffered some post traumatic stress in your childhood. You hate the nice guy because that failed you and when you went the complete opposite to try and gain the approval of women and that failed you pretended to go your own way and couldn't even accomplish that. Now youre trying to drag impressionable troubled young men down with you to accompany you in your misery that you laughably try to mask as being "great". I pity you.
 

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InnerHappiness said:
I think you are attracting trash women, which is great for that sexual release. A+
Does it cross your mind that quality women aren't going to put out on the first date? I've been in my fair share of ONS, but they have no substance. If your goal is to get laid, this is the wrong forum for you. Anyone can get laid, but do the chicks that you bang have potential? I'm not talking about looks or ease of sex, that's not what this site is about. It's geared toward men bettering themselves, understanding that sex is not the end goal.

What do you have to offer, aside from thinking that women are all slvts and that if you don't have sex with them, they can easily dial another number? Just curious...
Do you even know what a "quality woman" is? I would love to hear your definition and I'll bet money it comes straight from a Disney movie. :crackup:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Crossbow said:
Its obvious youre a basement dwelling mgtow recluse railing against nature because natural selection has weeded you out. You have obviously suffered some post traumatic stress in your childhood. You hate the nice guy because that failed you and when you went the complete opposite to try and gain the approval of women and that failed you pretended to go your own way and couldn't even accomplish that. Now youre trying to drag impressionable troubled young men down with you to accompany you in your misery that you laughably try to mask as being "great". I pity you.
Per usual.. any time "real talk" occurs female trolls like yourself start kicking sand.

The bottom line is.. any woman on this site is only interested in promoting ideas and ideals that benefit women. PERIOD.

So you as a woman have nothing useful to contribute to any of the men here. All they can learn from you is how to better serve women.. not how to get the most out of their own lives.

Nice try though. :up:
 

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Do you even know what a "quality woman" is? I would love to hear your definition and I'll bet money it comes straight from a Disney movie. :crackup:
You definitely don't because you're too busy watching Disney movies and spending your beta bucks on drinks to entitled women in urban bars.

Anything of quality you despise so why would it matter to you? :crackup:
 

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You definitely don't because you're too busy watching Disney movies and spending your beta bucks on drinks to entitled women in urban bars.

Anything of quality you despise so why would it matter to you? :crackup:
And what is your definition of "quality" exactly? A woman who makes a man "earn" sex with her.. or a woman who jumps in bed right away?

You don't even know what you're talking about. I'm grabbing my popcorn. :crackup:
 
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You definitely don't because you're too busy watching Disney movies and spending your beta bucks on drinks to entitled women in urban bars.

Anything of quality you despise so why would it matter to you? :crackup:
My mother and my grandmother were quality women. Now all women are not quality, some generations even promote cheating and robbing the husband blind... But here is what it was about my mother:

1. Physically attractive ( she did modeling from 18-27 ).
2. Not afraid to work. She's held employment since 18.
3. Does not expect the man to foot all the bills. Her and my father split the household debt for many years.
4. Has sex every night, not a b1tch about it. She wants to please her husband. My proof was hearing the bed hit the wall at night as a kid and it keep my up.
5. Has male friends, but does not want to hop on all their pipes. I knew that from growing up too, I heard about it. If my mom has a male friend, he will be invited into her home while my dad is there, and the "friend" male is treated like a visitor, not like the top Alpha in the house
6. If her man loses his job or gets sick she will help him out. Seen this many times over.
7. A team mate to her man or husband, not a boss and not a serveant either. My mom and dad work together, and every several years they could change who leads thehouse. Neither of them really care.

Now I know this is not "normal" for many people out there, but it's what I got used to growing up.

So I always expected my gf/wife would do similar to my mom. Never struck me it was literally a "pit of vipers" out there and women like my mom are not the norm.
 

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Do you even know what a "quality woman" is? I would love to hear your definition and I'll bet money it comes straight from a Disney movie. :crackup:
Here's a quality checklist for you:

- They always respond to your communication and requests
- They understand what you have to offer and cease communication suspicious offers from others.
- They have their sh!t straight with career and personal hobbies
- They stay away from situations that may impair judgement - raves, GNO, etc.
- They are always willing to come to your place
- They learn new sex requests when you ask

IDK man, to be as negative as you are toward relationships and women in general, it shows that you don't try to improve your chances of meeting a quality chick just so you can get your d!ck wet. If it works it works I guess. But don't shift blame on how all women are hypergamous and slvtty if those are the only women you get. If you throw bait for catfish, don't expect to catch a halibut :)

Also, nice guys get laid quite more often than you think. If you step back into reality for a bit, Game aids your success with women. Not an excuse for social retardation.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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InnerHappiness said:
Here's a quality checklist for you:

- They always respond to your communication and requests
- They understand what you have to offer and cease communication suspicious offers from others.
- They have their sh!t straight with career and personal hobbies
- They stay away from situations that may impair judgement - raves, GNO, etc.
- They are always willing to come to your place
- They learn new sex requests when you ask

IDK man, to be as negative as you are toward relationships and women in general, it shows that you don't try to improve your chances of meeting a quality chick just so you can get your d!ck wet. If it works it works I guess. But don't shift blame on how all women are hypergamous and slvtty if those are the only women you get. If you throw bait for catfish, don't expect to catch a halibut :)

Also, nice guys get laid quite more often than you think. If you step back into reality for a bit, Game aids your success with women. Not an excuse for social retardation.
That's it? You realize that's only six things right? Are you saying the vast majority of women can't even do those six things?

And you're calling me negative? :crackup:

I'm not negative. I just tell the truth. The truth is neither positive or negative.. it just is what it is.

If the vast majority of women can't even do six simple things.. that just proves my point doesn't it? :crackup:
 

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Yeah man, that's what I care about at the moment. What about you?

It's very arrogant to think you spit truth at 31 years old. I'm around your age, it's very easy to believe your beliefs are definitive. Heck, I thought my beliefs were definitive 5 years ago...boy was I wrong. I think the greatest thing we have as men is to put ego aside and stay humble. Women always stick to their own opinions.
 

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That's it? You realize that's only six things right? Are you saying the vast majority of women can't even do those six things?

And you're calling me negative? :crackup:

I'm not negative. I just tell the truth. The truth is neither positive or negative.. it just is what it is.

If the vast majority of women can't even do six simple things.. that just proves my point doesn't it? :crackup:
Because the vast majority of women don't even do those six simple things for you doesn't mean they don't do them for other men.

Way to pwn yourself. :crackup:
 

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ElToro said:
Because the vast majority of women don't even do those six simple things for you doesn't mean they don't do them for other men.

Way to pwn yourself. :crackup:
It's cool man, Poon King expects a woman to svck his d!ck while talking to her BF and be monogamous. Not all of us that give advice have insecurities.
 

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ElToro said:
Because the vast majority of women don't even do those six simple things for you doesn't mean they don't do them for other men.

Way to pwn yourself. :crackup:
I'm not the one who said those six things are what make a "quality woman" you blithering idiot.

So way to pwn yourself and way to look stupid. :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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