"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Advice: Dealing with a cold turkey

f29d6h

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I'm 25, and recently for the first time ever, I had a chick go cold turkey on me.

We've been talking no longer than a month. During the month, we only saw each other five times, and each encounter turned intimate, but we never had sex (more on that later).

The last week of the month, she told me "I want to be your girlfriend", we talked about it, seemed like an okay move, and went from there.

Like most of the other cold turkey stories I'm reading, everything was smooth sailing... there were no signs or signals what so ever that she would lose it. She was cooking for me, had me meet her dad and even left her house open before she took a trip to see some friends for the weekend.

"That weekend" I mentioned is when sh!t got weird. Friday we woke up at her place, took a shower together. I dropped her off from work later that day and she said she was grabbing dinner with her dad and would see me later that night before she left.

Later after dinner with her dad, she ended up texting me saying "hey I left... I was busy, sorry I couldnt see you but I left the house open for you<3" The next morning I'm browsing facebook and notice she'd blocked me. I didn't hear from her all day (and made no attempts myself to keep from looking desperate). Finally around 11pm I called her, no response. Sunday I get a text that simply read "We can't be together, I'm honestly not ready for this."

And that was that. I didn't respond to her or try to call her. According to many of my friends, that was the best move as it allows me to keep some form of control in a seemingly hopeless situation. Most of them said "give it time man, she'll call you crying in a few days and you can go from there".

Was that the best move, what do you guys think?

As for the sex, this girl has a particularly nasty reputation so when we first hung out, I told her I was only going to go so far. The next time an opportunity arose she told me she wanted to wait and be sure "because I like you"... and the third attempt, whiskey **** conquered me (yeah, ouch... I know).

Any thoughts or input will be greatly appreciated, thanks gents.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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crazyboy

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You should just bang the slut and been done with it. Because thats what she is from your description of your paragraph. You know what she probably is not ready for realitionship and just wanted to screw. On the side note you did the right thing by ignoring her and not calling her back. chances of her calling with you is slim because you didn't bang her. The only way i see her getting back at you if you made her "feel" something for you or game so strong you capitavate her mentally.
 

joverby

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Pretty random seeming from all you posted.

But judging from your comment about her having a nasty reputation combined with the fact that you never nailed this chick once.(When you were showering with her and sleeping over at her house)

Lack of sex / you making a move was the death of it.
 

f29d6h

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Haha even though it's the obvious truth, you guys are absolutely right... I know I should've nailed it. It just sucks realizing that now... all I had to do was f*ck!!

She had me sprung for sure... looks & intelligence, but coming from a mid to small sized town where I know half the guys she's been with... it just ****s with me mentally.
 

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Not sure if I can blame her. You took a shower with her and you didn't even do it there. Maybe she started thinking that you were faking all those "intimate" moments and that you might be gay :crackup:

It is a very serious thing. If you get a woman aroused up to a certain point and you are not willing to pull the trigger she will lose interest like a fall from a skyscraper..FAST!

I know from personal experience :(
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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f29d6h

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f283000,

Haha I agree with you. I'd just never been in a situation where sex had been delayed this long... so like you, I just learned the hard way.

I like what you said though, pulling the trigger is what it came down to. I guess since she had told me she liked me so early on, I didn't feel a need to rush into sex and had more of a "hey I'm still getting my rocks off, sex will happen when it happens"... and the rest is history.

Appreciate everyone's input so far... lesson thoroughly learned.
 

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I don't think the OP is totally to blame. Clearly this chick is coo coo for coco puffs. Blocking him on FB for no reason suggests her mind is filled with crazy voices suggesting this or that. It's just weird, unless we don't really know the whole story.

Not responding to her was the EXACT right move. Now she is left wondering if SHE blew it. Don't do a thing, seriously, nothing! If you follow this simple advice (which you on your own thus far have), she will contact you.

Then, NAIL her!

But do not expect her to be LTR material.

Don't do anything, and report back to us!
 

f29d6h

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Johnnyventana said:
I don't think the OP is totally to blame. Clearly this chick is coo coo for coco puffs. Blocking him on FB for no reason suggests her mind is filled with crazy voices suggesting this or that. It's just weird, unless we don't really know the whole story.

Not responding to her was the EXACT right move. Now she is left wondering if SHE blew it. Don't do a thing, seriously, nothing! If you follow this simple advice (which you on your own thus far have), she will contact you.

Then, NAIL her!

But do not expect her to be LTR material.

Don't do anything, and report back to us!
I really appreciate the words of encourgement.

And to tell you the truth... you're right on the ball with the coo coo for cocoa puffs. I don't want to put her on blast on a forum, but she's had one crazy upbringing to say the least... did I mention her kid? haha
 

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She's 22. Kid is 5:rolleyes:

Yeah, like you said, definitely not LTR material haha.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Tiguere

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yup now im completely sure she was just looking for sex. shell call you back though after shes done with the bad boys and want a pointdexter(stepfather) for her kid. she got 3-5 years left before you become attractive in her eyes.
 

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It's another guy, obviously. They went away for the weekend and sealed the deal.

The Facebook block was to keep you in the dark about it, as a safety net incase it doesn't workout.

Nothing new here.
 
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