Bballer7389
Don Juan
since shes partying it up, and w/ I assume her closest friends, it seems like she has her mind elsewhere right now......
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Advancing things with girl that is leaving
- Thread starter itishe
- Start date
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Ok boys, my journey is coming towards an end. Through it I feel I'm much more willing to make a move, more sexual, and a multitude of posistive traits.
Let me begin. I just arrived home a few minutes ago from hanging out with her (6:45 AM) and I'm pretty damn well sure she's into me. The night before she invited me to some party that was happening at friends place, she said about 8-9 people would be there but when we arrived only 3-4 were actually there. One by one people started going to bed and my friend who was my ride (wasn't really in the right stature to be driving) wanted to go so I didn't have much choice...
Upon arriving home around 3 AM I knew I was going against my gut instinct and I should really be back there with her. I log into MSN and within moments she messages me and I tell her she should come get me. She agrees and moments later we are returning to the house minus everyone but us two. We do some general chatting and I do my best to get up close to her and get a few "accidental" touches in on her ass, etc. she doesn't seem to mind so I keep going with it.
After a while we decide to watch a movie where we both lie on the couch together, but on opposing ends. I start by tickeling her feet and slowly moving up the calves. She isn't pulling back one bit and she's completely sober (no alcohol to make things complicated) so I know I have this in the bag (in the sense I know that she wants to be mine). Throughout the movie I made my way up to her inner thigh region (it's pretty damn hard to move north when she's wearing medium fitting jeans so that's about as far as I could go) where she squeamed a little due to being tickelish. I notice the more daring I am the more she returns. Since she seems to be highly inexperienced (I'm no pro either) I think she took it light on me. For my thigh escapades she'd gently rub my thighs and calves which I took as a good sign
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At about 6:30 my friends mom pops in the house to the sight of us two laying on the couch, we greet her, kind of laughing how odd it was. We decide for me to go back to my place before my mom wonders where I am in the morning and why my friend is over at my place and I'm not there. When we arrive at my place we sat there discussing what we planned on doing for her last night, she recommended that we hang out tonight, and just talked about life in general for a little while. Kept up some good eye contact and I can tell she wants to have a little "fun" before she leaves.
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I have one word of advice to any aspiring ladies men (I don't really want to be one, I just want to be able to make girls that I want lust after me) and it's too not be a pansy. I'm still trying to get over the whole, "I'm scared so I better not make a move and this go no where" **** but if you're feeling confident trust your gut and do it! She may turn you down, but the rewards of trying outweight anything.
Let me begin. I just arrived home a few minutes ago from hanging out with her (6:45 AM) and I'm pretty damn well sure she's into me. The night before she invited me to some party that was happening at friends place, she said about 8-9 people would be there but when we arrived only 3-4 were actually there. One by one people started going to bed and my friend who was my ride (wasn't really in the right stature to be driving) wanted to go so I didn't have much choice...
Upon arriving home around 3 AM I knew I was going against my gut instinct and I should really be back there with her. I log into MSN and within moments she messages me and I tell her she should come get me. She agrees and moments later we are returning to the house minus everyone but us two. We do some general chatting and I do my best to get up close to her and get a few "accidental" touches in on her ass, etc. she doesn't seem to mind so I keep going with it.
After a while we decide to watch a movie where we both lie on the couch together, but on opposing ends. I start by tickeling her feet and slowly moving up the calves. She isn't pulling back one bit and she's completely sober (no alcohol to make things complicated) so I know I have this in the bag (in the sense I know that she wants to be mine). Throughout the movie I made my way up to her inner thigh region (it's pretty damn hard to move north when she's wearing medium fitting jeans so that's about as far as I could go) where she squeamed a little due to being tickelish. I notice the more daring I am the more she returns. Since she seems to be highly inexperienced (I'm no pro either) I think she took it light on me. For my thigh escapades she'd gently rub my thighs and calves which I took as a good sign
.At about 6:30 my friends mom pops in the house to the sight of us two laying on the couch, we greet her, kind of laughing how odd it was. We decide for me to go back to my place before my mom wonders where I am in the morning and why my friend is over at my place and I'm not there. When we arrive at my place we sat there discussing what we planned on doing for her last night, she recommended that we hang out tonight, and just talked about life in general for a little while. Kept up some good eye contact and I can tell she wants to have a little "fun" before she leaves.
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I have one word of advice to any aspiring ladies men (I don't really want to be one, I just want to be able to make girls that I want lust after me) and it's too not be a pansy. I'm still trying to get over the whole, "I'm scared so I better not make a move and this go no where" **** but if you're feeling confident trust your gut and do it! She may turn you down, but the rewards of trying outweight anything.
Today is a day of mixed emotions.
The positives:
This girl is mine.
I've improved my field skill ten fold.
I feel braver.
I'll see her again in the future
The Negatives:
She's gone.
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I'm too tired (been up for about 27 hours now) to tell you the whole story, perhaps another day, but let me tell you this. She was given me head until a stupid ass drunk friend of hers started busting down the door to her room.
Despite the fact I couldn't bang her last night I must say I'm quite pleased in the fact she's 100% clean. I know this because right before I stuck my **** in her face she said, "I've never done this before" to which I replied, "gotta start somewhere, right?". I thought I sounded kinda like a prick by saying that so later I said, "don't worry you're not the only rookie here". It's kind of cool knowing you got a virgin and she must really be digging you to be doing these things with you.
Since I opened her up sexually, I think college may be my downfall if you know what I mean.
The positives:
This girl is mine.
I've improved my field skill ten fold.
I feel braver.
I'll see her again in the future
The Negatives:
She's gone.
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I'm too tired (been up for about 27 hours now) to tell you the whole story, perhaps another day, but let me tell you this. She was given me head until a stupid ass drunk friend of hers started busting down the door to her room.
Despite the fact I couldn't bang her last night I must say I'm quite pleased in the fact she's 100% clean. I know this because right before I stuck my **** in her face she said, "I've never done this before" to which I replied, "gotta start somewhere, right?". I thought I sounded kinda like a prick by saying that so later I said, "don't worry you're not the only rookie here". It's kind of cool knowing you got a virgin and she must really be digging you to be doing these things with you.
Since I opened her up sexually, I think college may be my downfall if you know what I mean.
dannowillbookem
Master Don Juan
its great getting innocent girls to do things they dont do.
TheVirtualMind
Master Don Juan
Good job itishe. You came on this thread a bit nearvous and insecure and the final thing you just posted showed how far you came just by having a bit of confidence.
I wish we could get more people like you on here. People that actually try stuff instead of saying "oh, I can't do this."
I wish we could get more people like you on here. People that actually try stuff instead of saying "oh, I can't do this."
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
PeterNorthisawesome
Banned
Nasty...? I don't get what you mean fish tastes good...itishe said:
just be careful if it smells like perfume!So I was on MSN at work and when I logged in I must of gotten about 5 messages each asking, "So are you going out with XXX"?
I honestly don't know, we never left on terms of a relationship (you'd think she'd be into a commitment if I was the first guy she did things with and she's not a slut). How do you think I best go about finding out if she'd be into a long-distance relationship until she comes back?
I honestly don't know, we never left on terms of a relationship (you'd think she'd be into a commitment if I was the first guy she did things with and she's not a slut). How do you think I best go about finding out if she'd be into a long-distance relationship until she comes back?
dannowillbookem
Master Don Juan
jim was in the supermarket one day and saw an old friend of his from highschool. the buddy recognized him, exchanged pleasantries but then donned a serious face and told him he was looking really bad. jim thought this was strange, since he felt great, but brushed it off until a few days ago when he ran into another buddy with the same thing to say...you look like shiit! jim was really confused since he felt great, so he went to the doc.
the doctor opens up his big book of diseases and conditions and begins scanning...looks great, feels great...no ....looks bad, feels bad...no... "here it is!" the doctor said upon arriving at looks bad but feels great. "youre a vagina!"
the doctor opens up his big book of diseases and conditions and begins scanning...looks great, feels great...no ....looks bad, feels bad...no... "here it is!" the doctor said upon arriving at looks bad but feels great. "youre a vagina!"
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.