“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Advanced Game: Discovering a Friendship Connection

NewJack

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There are two frames in dating: romantic/sexual and friendship.

At the start of their dating lives, many guys on this board chose to rebel against
the friendship frame. Well, like so many times in life, the thing that was so
undesirable at the beginning becomes the most necessary thing for you later on.

Many guys are attempting to pursue dating from a purely romantic/sexual frame.
This is building a relationship using purely sexual energy. However, sexual energy
is not a reliable basis for a relationship, because most of us have a lot going on
besides just lust. We each have a mind, a heart, and a social persona, and each of these
has its own choosiness.

Here is how you can mix in friendship energy into your dating frame:

0. In all your dealings with a woman, emphasize the connection ABOVE any physical outcome or
circumstance. Seek the connection, always. If you are not looking to connect, none of this
is going to make much sense or be very possible.

1. When you are deciding to ask her out, consider if you are ready to be friends with this person.

Could that be possible? Do you find her interesting in a non-sexual way? Is her company fun, or
would it be fun?


2. When you ask her out, try to convey that it is not a date in the normal sense. It is something
between a date and hanging out and a conversation. How well you pull this off depends on how much
sincere friendship-level connection you established in the foregoing conversation. If you have to lean
on the romantic/sexual frame because your friendship game is weak, feel free to do so initially.

I know, I know, dating is society's 'get-sex protocol' and how will you ever sexualize things
and not end in the friendzone. Well, this is advanced game, I'm assuming when the time comes
to mix in sexual energy, you will be up to the challenge. I'm actually assuming that your sexual game
is tight enough already, and just telling you how to build the foundation that lets you knock
the ball into 'relationship land' with more flair and success. If this isn't the case, you can actually still use this paradigm
because the friendship energy is going to take the burden off your sexual game. It will make 'pouncing' easier.

3. Proceed from the default assumption that it will end in friendship, and observe it honestly to see
where it is going. Does she feel like a friend? Does she seem sexually interested?

Many will scream that this ambiguity is the death of them. But actually, you're just giving the woman
the open opportunity to consciously choose what she would already be choosing anyway. You're just
honoring her choice, instead of trying to force something. With you helping her and not trying to sabotage
her, she will choose much more wisely for herself and you. You have to accept the results of this screening
process if you want to enter relationship-land, where the gates of loveable pvssy and good conversation are unlocked
and you get to bang a girl *consistently over time*. The hidden darkside of DJing is that your bootycalls are limited to three-week
windows which are all the time opening and suddenly closing as women opt-out of your friendshipless bangfests.


CYNICISM ABOUT FRIENDSHIP

Many are cynical about friendship, and don't believe that meeting a new person and connecting with them
has any value in itself. All I can say off the cuff is that believing in friendship has its rewards,
and its payback. Just like dreams, or beauty, or God, friendship is something that requires a conscious choice
to believe in the good of it. These things actually come from a higher world, where we are not allowed to live in yet,
and so believing in the reality of them is a choice and a commitment.

After that choice is made, its good is revealed. Non-believers are stuck at the entrance.
If you are having a rough time socially, consider that at some point in your journey
you may have stopped believing in Friendship. That makes socializing difficult, to say the least.


RESULTS

Expect that this paradigm will result in many dates that end in friendships. And since the friendship may not be all that awesome,
in your eyes, you may not cash in on them and become life-long buddies.

However, this setup only has to work once for you to catch a fish that will feed you for a lot longer than a few weeks.
If and when this paradigm works, you will be tapping into a connection that you can run much farther with.

The women you catch with this method will trump the women caught by DJ principles, saving you from the three age-old problems of the DJ:

1. She will not be hard to keep around
2. She will not be hell to keep around
3. You can be yourself when she is around

Good luck and I hope you find these words useful.
 

TheWolfMan

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That is some good wisdom right there. I feel like it's hard to walk the line between using the "friendship" frame and being cast into the friendzone though? Any insight? Like you said the girls nabbed with this technique will stick around longer thought, more a bond is formed I feel.
 

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NewJack said:
There are two frames in dating: romantic/sexual and friendship.
Yes....one results in having sex with a girl....and one results with no sex with a girl. Ill let the people decide which is which.

NewJack said:
At the start of their dating lives, many guys on this board chose to rebel against
the friendship frame. Well, like so many times in life, the thing that was so
undesirable at the beginning becomes the most necessary thing for you later on.
Dont know what planet that you have been living on....but at the start guys are doing EXACTLY what you prescribe. They try to "not ruin" anything and try to be the "nice guy". Result? FRIEND ZONE.

NewJack said:
Many guys are attempting to pursue dating from a purely romantic/sexual frame.
This is building a relationship using purely sexual energy. However, sexual energy
is not a reliable basis for a relationship, because most of us have a lot going on
besides just lust.
Only the smart ones are. Women can become friends with people they have sex with....BUT THEY NEVER can have sex with "just friends". Thats why its important to begin the relationship with a woman under a sexual frame...otherwise you are discarded into the friendzone and have to climb your way back.

NewJack said:
Here is how you can mix in friendship energy into your dating frame:

1. When you are deciding to ask her out, consider if you are ready to be friends with this person.

2. When you ask her out, try to convey that it is not a date in the normal sense. It is something
between a date and hanging out and a conversation. How well you pull this off depends on how much
sincere friendship-level connection you established in the foregoing conversation. If you have to lean
on the romantic/sexual frame because your friendship game is weak, feel free to do so initially.
1. Wrong. When you are deciding to ask her out, consider if you would like to have sexual intercouse with her. Throughout the course of dates, you may decide if you like her enough to keep seeing her.

2. Wrong. If your going to "convey" anything...it should be that you are giving her a shot and want to see if she is cool. Its not your job to impress her by being "non traditional".

NewJack said:
Well, this is advanced game, I'm assuming when the time comes
to mix in sexual energy, you will be up to the challenge.
Since when did advanced game = no game? "Up to the challenge".......lol. Oh ya, I love putting myself in the friendzone on purpose, just for the challenge of wasting 1.5 years climbing my way out and into her good graces....its "advanced game".

NewJack said:
Many will scream that this ambiguity is the death of them. But actually, you're just giving the woman
the open opportunity to consciously choose what she would already be choosing anyway. You're just
honoring her choice, instead of trying to force something. With you helping her and not trying to sabotage
her, she will choose much more wisely for herself and you. You have to accept the results of this screening
process if you want to enter relationship-land, where the gates of loveable pvssy and good conversation are unlocked
and you get to bang a girl *consistently over time*. The hidden darkside of DJing is that your bootycalls are limited to three-week
windows which are all the time opening and suddenly closing as women opt-out of your friendshipless bangfests.
Hey pal....its not the WOMAN'S JOB TO SCREEN. Its OURS!!! "Accept the results of her screening process"......what the fvck is that? Terrible mindset.

In my dating life....I DO the screening. If I DONT LIKE a girl, shes out. If SHE DOESNT LIKE ME...I laugh. Your mindset is terrible and comes from a base of supplication. Your trying to "impress" you way into her pants by becoming her friend first...let me tell you....its not "advanced game", this is EXACTLY what chumps have been doing for the last couple decades and IT DOESNT WORK.


NewJack said:
RESULTS

Expect that this paradigm will result in many dates that end in friendships.
OH YA!!!! Finally a guide to dating that results in many many many friendships and STONE COLD rejections. About time someone wrote one of these up...its what Ive always been seeking.


NewJack said:
The women you catch with this method will trump the women caught by DJ principles, saving you from the three age-old problems of the DJ:

1. She will not be hard to keep around
2. She will not be hell to keep around
3. You can be yourself when she is around
LOL

I have a GF, and I didnt "get her" by using your method of Best Friends Forever First....and guess what? All of the above applies to our relationship...fancy that.
 

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Hey The Exception,
TheException said:
Hey pal....its not the WOMAN'S JOB TO SCREEN. Its OURS!!! "Accept the results of her screening process"......what the fvck is that? Terrible mindset.
Your girlfriend didn't screen you? huh?

BUT THEY NEVER can have sex with "just friends". Thats why its important to begin the relationship with a woman under a sexual frame...otherwise you are discarded into the friendzone and have to climb your way back.
Do whatever works for you.

Generally we men seek after outward expressions of sexuality because our anxiety is too high to trust our feelings - which say that the situation is sexual.
If you feel its a sexual situation, then she does too. Human beings are connected in that way. You can rely upon it.

Since when did advanced game = no game? "Up to the challenge".......lol. Oh ya, I love putting myself in the friendzone on purpose, just for the challenge of wasting 1.5 years climbing my way out and into her good graces....its "advanced game".
1.5 years? All I meant was you might want to wait a couple weeks, see where things go. When you have the foundation of friendship, it makes it a lot easier to make things sexual. Its like, "Hey, you know that I like you, right? Well, guess what... I really like you." That exchange at week 3 is better than this exchange in week 1: "DO YOU LIKE ME? WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH ME? WILL YOU HAVE SEX WITH ME? I DONT CARE ABOUT YOU I MEAN IM NOT EMOTIONALLY INVESTED UNLESS YOU PUT OUT AND THEN .... WILL YOU HAVE SEX WITH ME??"

1. Wrong. When you are deciding to ask her out, consider if you would like to have sexual intercouse with her. Throughout the course of dates, you may decide if you like her enough to keep seeing her.
Ok. Thats one way to approach things. 50-80% of the time spent in a relationship is actually not having sex, though. I would be concerned, just for my own quality of life, that I enjoyed that other 50% of the time that we were together.

OH YA!!!! Finally a guide to dating that results in many many many friendships and STONE COLD rejections. About time someone wrote one of these up...its what Ive always been seeking.
Interestingly, you will never get a 'stone cold' rejection with this method. Never ever ever ever, if you do it right.

Yeah this is like fishing for more difficult but much larger fish. The risk / reward increases, you are playing for bigger stakes.

its not "advanced game", this is EXACTLY what chumps have been doing for the last couple decades and IT DOESNT WORK.
Class has ended and you're free to go.
 

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If I want to expand my social circle this is excellent because I will land in the friendzone more than half the time on "good terms."

For dating, I feel this their "logical" mindset for the female.

NewJack said:
Many guys are attempting to pursue dating from a purely romantic/sexual frame.
This is building a relationship using purely sexual energy. However, sexual energy
is not a reliable basis for a relationship, because most of us have a lot going on
besides just lust. We each have a mind, a heart, and a social persona, and each of these
has its own choosiness.
If this were the case, nice guys would be winning. Women are like companions, they tag along in our life for the ride. It's not our job to mention being exclusive. If we don't pursue romantically/sexually, then we will be friend zoned.

If you're solely looking for a relationship, then you're doing it wrong. Relationships or "Love" is playful, not serious.


NewJack said:
1. When you are deciding to ask her out, consider if you are ready to be friends with this person.

Could that be possible? Do you find her interesting in a non-sexual way? Is her company fun, or
would it be fun?
Well obviously I would be interested in being more than friends if I continue to talk to her to begin with. I agree constantly escalating and "pushing" when she's rejecting it isn't the way to go, but if she let's us, then why would we stop?

NewJack said:
Many will scream that this ambiguity is the death of them. But actually, you're just giving the woman
the open opportunity to consciously choose what she would already be choosing anyway. You're just
honoring her choice, instead of trying to force something. With you helping her and not trying to sabotage
her, she will choose much more wisely for herself and you. You have to accept the results of this screening
process if you want to enter relationship-land, where the gates of loveable pvssy and good conversation are unlocked
and you get to bang a girl *consistently over time*. The hidden darkside of DJing is that your bootycalls are limited to three-week
windows which are all the time opening and suddenly closing as women opt-out of your friendshipless bangfests.
A women s head and her vagina think differently.

Logically speaking according to women, it's force. For men, it's Attraction. We simply screen out the ones that aren't interested for the ones who actually are. Women don't need months or years to realize that they "like" you.

NewJack said:
CYNICISM ABOUT FRIENDSHIP

Many are cynical about friendship, and don't believe that meeting a new person and connecting with them
has any value in itself. All I can say off the cuff is that believing in friendship has its rewards,
and its payback. Just like dreams, or beauty, or God, friendship is something that requires a conscious choice
to believe in the good of it. These things actually come from a higher world, where we are not allowed to live in yet,
and so believing in the reality of them is a choice and a commitment.

After that choice is made, its good is revealed. Non-believers are stuck at the entrance.
If you are having a rough time socially, consider that at some point in your journey
you may have stopped believing in Friendship. That makes socializing difficult, to say the least.


RESULTS

Expect that this paradigm will result in many dates that end in friendships. And since the friendship may not be all that awesome,
in your eyes, you may not cash in on them and become life-long buddies.
Like I said, if I want to expand my social circle, then this is excellent. But I disagree that this is "Advanced Game."

Oh yeah and since when did women do the screening? As men, we decide not her. Unless you look/act like sh*t, but if so then you're not a real man anyway.

NewJack said:
However, this setup only has to work once for you to catch a fish that will feed you for a lot longer than a few weeks.
If and when this paradigm works, you will be tapping into a connection that you can run much farther with.

The women you catch with this method will trump the women caught by DJ principles, saving you from the three age-old problems of the DJ:

1. She will not be hard to keep around
2. She will not be hell to keep around
3. You can be yourself when she is around

Good luck and I hope you find these words useful.
Like I said, if this were to be expanding your social circle then this is excellent. You should be using kino, being playful, and leading with everyone you encounter though. So in reality, this should really be subconscious with your everyday interactions from women whom you're not interested in.

The only difference is, the ones that we are interested in, we add romance/sexual advance to the mix. With those compounds we make magic happen. If you can't control a women, then I don't believe you are a man.

Sex first, relationship later.
 
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