"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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joydivison

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I started hanging out with this girl. She was very touchy with me and always texting calling me. We started hanging out a lot and I found out she is gay. The night I found out she brought her girlfriend over and we all slept in my bed. I ended up trying to bang her and she stopped me after a bit without the other knowing. Well this happened again another night. I have given her crazy massages or something sexual every time they stay the night. She now has come over twice by herself. The first time when things heated up she got weird so I did a freeze out. Then she told me she wanted to but was guilty about her girlfriend. I ended up taking her home telling her, I don't think we should hang out anymore. She came over again a few days later and I started up again she told me she was gay and didn't have emotional connections with men. She told me we should just be friends cause she is in a relationship and gay. Then I told her she is my friend, but I have feelings for her and that dosent just change. She told me things would have been different if she wasn't in a relationship. Then i said lets not hang out. She tells me that would crush her girlfriend who loves me. Then we go back to my couch I ask her for a hug. She lays on me and grabs my hand and starts holding it. Someone shows up at my house and we end up having to leave we meet her girlfriend and go hot tubing. At the end of the night she drives me in my car following her girlfriend home. I ask her for a kiss she says no I will feel guilty. I kiss her anyhow and they leave(the other one dosent know). What is going on with this girl? how should I move forward?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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could really use some help here. She will be calling me to hang out tomorrow, and they want me to go on a trip with them at the end of the week.
 

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It seems like you've tried all the tricks in the book.

Maybe you should search for a straight girl on the side while she figures herself out?

Good news is that girls are pretty sexually flexible, so maybe you could flip her?

I wouldn't exhaust too much effort into her unless the relationship you have benefits you in some other way.

Right now she just seems like an emotional mess. I haven't heard very many people in your situation, so that's as far as my advice goes.

edit: whenever I am in a situation where I feel like I'm approaching the friend zone, I cut contact and move on. Show her what life is like without you around. If she has feelings for you she will make it known to you one way or another. If she doesn't than you find out she doesn't feel that way about you and you can move on knowing you didn't waste any more of your time trying to get her. Win win situation IMO.

2nd edit: Or you could go with the bold route and get them in a threesome during your "trip".
 
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