Adevntures of a RAFC

[Aresx]

OR/FR (outing report/field report): popping my walk-up "cherry"
Date: 9/10/04

A little late in posting, but here it is.

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I've broken this OR/FR into parts to make it all easier for you to read.
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Wow, what a weird night.


-Part 1: Cafe Iguana
Okay, so at about 11pm, i decide to drive 45 minutes to another county - Pembroke Pines, and go to Cafe Iguana. That's a club/bar/poolhall. I was really ****ing nervous, and had to be encouraged by the guys on the PUA chat.

So, following their advice, i drink a little before I go in. I see some girls I'd like to approach. Still don't have the guts yet. So I drink about 4 Parrot Bay & Cokes, and approach one, tap her on the shoulder, and nod over to the dance floor. She shakes her head as if to say "no thanks".

Feeling bad now, I drink two more Parrot Bay & Cokes, a Corona, and approach one more. Again, shot down the same exact way.

God, does those even count as "approaches"? Jesus, I am such a *****.

At this point (3am), I get badly discouraged, so I leave. Mind you, this took place in the span of 3 HOURS. Two girls in three hours. Damn that's pitiful.


-Part 2: HBPunk
Anyway, I'm so drunk right now that I don't think it's a good idea to drive. So I call up HBPunk, a really horny chick I met online a few months ago and then had phone sex with. She lives very far away, though... and she's 16 and is the singer for a punk rock band, and wants to drop out. So we get to talking, and I tell her to take off her light, get naked, and lay down. Then we have phone sex. Afterwards, she mentions she might be coming down to Pembroke Pines this week or next week. She says she'll call me, and we can maybe hookup. She's going to mail me a picture of herself first. She loves my voice, and says that I am amazing. We'll see where that goes.


-Part 3: HBFriend
So, after we finish up at about 5am, and I get a voicemail from HB8Friend(19). She is a friend of mine, but we ****ed last year. She keeps wanting to get high again, and I know she ends up ****ing when she's high (her choice, not taken advantage of). But I can't smoke because I have a lot of job interviews lining up soon, and I don't want to trade my livelihood for one night of *****. Turns out she was in the same county at a different club, and wanted to meet up - damn, about 5 hours too late.

Whatever. I call her back and she answers. We end up going to Miami Beach to watch the sunrise (she wanted to toke, but I said no) while I boogieboard in jeans. She tells me that she tells all of her friends about me, how I'm so ****ing great, not that I'm a "nice person", but really cool - good hearted, but really "interesting". She also says it's interesting how I zone in and out of her life (meaning I go months without calling her, then suddenly we start to hang out every other week, and so on). She says her current boyfriend was jealous of me, too, when she says that "oh man, I love Nocturnal". That, and although we share sex stories (and I don't get jealous, oddly enough), every time she's with a guy, she hesitates to tell me where she is if the guy can hear her, as if she were having an affair with me or something.

She asks about my ex - I just got out of a LTR3years - and I tell her about it. Side note: My exLTR3years and I watched HBFriend have sex in a hotel room with her boyfriend (one of my best friends at the time). I was down to ****, but my ex got a little weirded out. Anyway, so then HBFriend then starts describing her perfect guy, which sounds a lot like me, but it could be my loneliness adding meaning to her words. Is the trying to give me a message here, or am I just misinterpreting? Maybe when I'm drunk I'll try something and use that as an excuse if she isn't into it. Or would that be AFC behavior? Maybe I should just go for a kiss and if she pulls away, I could just say I was curious. What do you guys think I should do? Let me know.

By the way, she was about to show me her bare ass, and show that even though it's gotten a little bigger (and REALLY nice - this chick has a hot body - tits are a bit small, though, and she's a little taller than me, but the entire package is VERY NICE), she claims still has no cellulite - but then people started showing up. Last time she did something like that, she wanted to show me her shaved *****, and then she grabbed my hair and pulled me into it. Damn, I've got to **** her again. Her first bf (my friend) was/is a natural, and all the other guys she dates end up being rich (although she doesn't know it at first usually... they just happen to be the ones who approach her), or sometimes PUAs who she ends up dumping, because they fall in love with her. Uh oh, sounds like Nocturnal is about to get one-itis. I can hear all of you now: "NO NOCTURNAL! TURN BACK! TURN BACK WHILE YOU STILL CAN!" We'll see where that goes.

I don't game this chick by the way. She's hot, I'd like to **** her a lot, but I see her as a "friend". Weird. Maybe I should reverse her own game on her and tell her about another "friend" who I'm so down with and we hang all the time, and that she's falling for me, and I think I'm going to fall for her. Maybe that will make her start to wonder more about me.


-Closing
Anyway, I just got back from the beach, it's about 9:30am as I'm writing this. I'm going to go to sleep.

I'll update you all later.

-Nocturnal (fastseduction.com)
-AresX (sosuave.com)

P.S. This FR was done on Friday 9/10 - Saturday 9/11 (remember it was morning, too). I had to wait another 10 days to post, because I registered a day before. Dammit.

P.P.S. In honor of the day (as I was writing this), God bless the families of those who died on 9/11. My heart goes out to you.

 

[Aresx]

whoops, this was supposed to be part of this thread, not a new thread

OR/FR: Another Miserable Failure
Date: 9/18/04

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I've broken this OR/FR into parts to make it all easier for you to read.
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This sucks.

-Part 1: Pembroke Lakes Mall
I go to the Mall at about 8pm, to try and establish some eye contact and maybe say Hi and have a short conversation with some girls. After about 45 minutes, I leave. I got no eye contact, and the only girl who bothered to look at me and say Hi was a clerk in Pacific Sunwear. What a failure. Am I really that ugly? At this point I'm not discouraged, I just decided that to get eye contact I should maybe get an interesting T-shirt or something that will draw attention.

-Part 2: Walgreens
My eyes are pretty red from the contacts, so I drive to a Walgreens to buy some eyedrops. In front of me in the line, there is a blond HBugly. WTF is an HBugly, you might ask. An HBugly is a woman who by all standards could have been or probably WAS hot 10 years ago, but the alcohol and/or sun exposure and/or drugs has caught up with her. Anyway, I figure what the hell - I point to a tiger tattoo on her shoulder and say "Does that mean anything?" She turns to me and says "What do you mean?" And I mention how most tattoos to people have a special meaning. And she says kind of, that she knows where she was and who gave it to her, but that's all. We fluff about candy for a minute, pay for our stuff, and leave. I think I am better when I don't go out to specifically pick up a woman. The last time I picked up a woman (although I never closed any of them) was hanging out at a Barnes & Noble. Hey, Barnes & Noble - what a good idea. So I head over there.

-Part 3: Barnes & Noble
I am in Barnes & Noble for 1 hour. I do nothing until 55 minutes into being there. I am hovering near some girl in the Philosophy section, and about to ask her what she's reading, and then some guy shows up. I say "**** this" and I leave. At this point I am getting really discouraged. Plus, the places I was going to go are now closed. So I head on over to a 24-hour Wal-Mart in Cooper City. I am determined to stay there until I get at least one PU.

-Part 4: Wal-Mart
I left after an hour. I walked around, got eye-contact with one HB7 and forgot to say Hi. I justified it because she was with her little brother (or son?). OMG, I am scared of a girl's little brother. I am such a wussy. I now realize why I haven't been able to sleep the past few nights. It's not that I'm lonely, it's that I'm worse at the game than I thought I was. I always had my neighbor to ****, but with her it was part luck and part her being a slut - and nothing to do with my PU skills. Unfortunately, she moved. I am discouraged at this point, so I go to the gas station to get gas and head home.

-Part 5: Mirror-Image?
At the gas station, this small hispanic guy, probably early 20's, approaches me and says "Hey man, I'm not gonna rob you or anything, but could you give me a ride to Hiatus Road? I'll give you $10 - It's just down the street, and my boy ditched me..." etc. I tell him to keep his money, he disagrees, so I say fine. In the car, we make some small talk, and I have a pen in my hand at all times, and keep an eye on any stab openings, just in case. But I drop him off at this pool hall, and then he actually invites me to play with him. I say sure (it's not like I've been doing anything else). He buys me a pitcher of beer and goes over and talks to two complete strangers, this black man and his Hispanic GF/wife. We play them pool, and this guy has them laughing and eating **** with him. And here I am, all alone, can't make a ****ing move towards a girl. Fate is ironic.

So I leave, he gives me his number, I get his, and he calls me on the way home and tells me to call him tomorrow. I am using this guy as a social ticket, and I'm sure he's using me as a ride or something. Apparently he can get into big name clubs at South Beach because he's friends with certain bouncers - as friendly as he is, I don't doubt it.

-Closing
I am very discouraged and feel emasculated. At least writing these Field Reports makes me feel somewhat better, and gives me a glimmer of hope that I'm make slow and eventual progress. I'm disappointed with myself, though, so I'm going to go workout at Porky's (a 24-hr gym), and make progress in at least ONE area of my life tonight.

-Nocturnal (fastseduction.com)
-AresX (sosuave.com)

 

[Aresx]

15 views, and no replies?

This isn't just for your entertainment, guys...

I actually need help with this stuff. (Wow, what a surprise!)

 

[Aresx]

FR: Workplace Game
Date: 9/20/04

-Part 1: On needing a reason to talk to a girl
I work in a Barnes & Noble. This is great for meeting women, because they have to come up to me for help, so it's almost like THEY approached me, so that part of the equation is gone, and so is my anxiety.

Yet, when I attempt to approach women outside of this, I feel that I need to have a reason why I go up and talk to them. As Shark would say, I need to have an "excuse". Anyone have any advice on how to counter feeling this way? It's not as easy for me to just think a different way... I have to have a justified reason to my self. I need to fill in these blanks:

I see an HB I want to approach. I don't get nervous, this is because I know I can approach the HB because _________. Whether or not she's not into me, __________.

(I had typed "rejected" instead of "not into me", but changed it. She's not actually rejecting me, she's just not into me, correct?)

-Part 2: HBFalcon
Anyway... one of the customers I help is HBFalcon8. Falcon because her last name is falcon, and she LOOKS like a falcon: graceful and severe at the same time. Not a *****y face, not a sweet face, and with some mischief hidden in her eyes. She is giving me IOI's or she naturally has that face, where a guy can think a girl is giving him IOI's. Whatever. After learning her last name, I tell her:

Me: Your name suits you.
HBFalcon: My name zoots-su?
Me: No, your name SUITS YOU.
HBFalcon: Oh whoops. (smiles, stares at me)
Me: (laughs at her) WHAT did you think I said?
HBFalcon: (smiles) I dunno. Some weird language thing.
Me: Riiiiight. No, I meant you look like your name. You look like a falcon.
HBFalcon: (eyes widen with curiousity) Really? Why?
Me: I don't know, there's just something about you. Something... almost evil.
HBFalcon: (laughs... God she looks ****ing beautiful) Yeah well, maybe. I've had kind of a rough day.
Me: Yeah. (packs her stuff in her bag, hands it to her) Alright well, see you evil one.
HBFalcon: (smiles, leaves)

NOOO!!!! I could have picked up on "I've had a bad day" and continued conversation, but I didn't. Why?
1) My boss was 10 feet away from me.
2) There was a line (I was the cashier)
3) Didn't think about it.

Crap. Oh well, maybe I'll see her again (as usually happens with the girls I used to meet), maybe I won't. Then who knows.

-Part 3: My discovery of "The Scrutinizing Look"
I had read somewhere last night about the scrutinizing look you should give women. To quote: "the type of look that a painter looks at his canvas when he steps back to 'scrutinize' his finished masterpiece" or something like that. Stuck with me a bit.

Today, I did it quite by accident to one girl, and she smiled. She's walking towards the exit, I'm at the cash registers, and we make eye contact for a second. I think she is someone I know, but I can't tell, so I 'scrutinize' her (squint my eyes just a bit, but focus more at what your watching) and she smiles at me while she is walking out. I couldn't tell if she was a HB5 or a HB7. That's why I was trying to focus.

Hmmm... lesson learned, quite by accident.

-Closing
Not bad, not good. I think it's better for me to BE a PUA/DJ instead of going out at nights or on weekends trying to ACT like one for a mission. Maybe this attitude, the constantly being ON, will help my game improve much faster.

"Don't hate the player, don't hate the game. Go **** yourself instead, and leave me alone." - Nocturnal

-Nocturnal(fastseduction.com)
-AresX(sosuave.com)

 

[Aresx]

FR/PR: Daily Practice
Date: 9/22/04

The PR I have is called a Practice Report. Practice means that I'm not going out specifically to meet women, I just test out the openers when I'm at work, school, etc. Of course, at work I am limited a bit, since I don't want to get accused of sexual harrassment. As Gunwitch (I think) pointed out to me, you can't get good at driving if you drive one day a week. You have to drive every day, at least a little bit. The same with women. So, I've become nearly obsessive about where and how I can approach women - the answer is everywhere and the how's are on this board and others.

Here goes...

-Part 1: Getting the "Look"
I initiate eye contact with a girl I knew from Miami-Dade Community College. I used to always see her in the gym. We recognize each other, but I do the whole scrutinize her with my eyes thing, and squint. This gets a smile, so I decide to lock this look onto my face when I'm around women.

-Part 2: I pop my approach "cherry"
I hover around this one HB, waiting around for everyone else to leave, because I am terrified of people overhearing me. Then I remember Sharks words - "Are you afraid people will know that you **** chicks?" I finally grab my sack, and due to some realizations on my part last night (mentioned at the end of this FR/PR, as well as the previous encouragement from other forum members, I approach her.

"Hey! (She turns around)
I need a female opinion on something. Who cheats more, guys or girls?"
I follow up with:
"Have you ever cheated on a boyfriend?" (She wanted to but didn't)
"Has a guy ever cheated on you?" (No, not that she knows of)
"Not to be too graphic here, but you know a **** is shaped the way it is to pull out other guy's sperm... and some sperm are meant to kill other sperm?" (LOL Maybe that was pushing it, but **** it, she didn't seem to mind)
We get into a brief conversation, and I notice as I become more comfortable with her, the less attractive she becomes to me (or the less power her attractiveness has over me). Weird. After a while, she has to go to the cafe to study, and I say, alright well thanks.

YAY! I count this as my first actual approach.

-Part 3: Confidence affects my automatic behavior
My ego is boosted and I am slightly more confident because I had the balls to approach a girl. Thus, when I'm ringing up a woman at the cashiers, the following takes place. She is a B, not a HB. I look at her eyes, and without intending to "approach" her, I say:
"Wow, are those your real eyes?"
"Yes."
"They're beautiful." (I said this slowly, and looking straight into her eyes. I wasn't even TRYING to do that. It came about naturally as a result of a confidence boost from my first approach. Normally I would have said something more neutral, like "yeah they're kind of nice")
"Thank you."- She smiles shyly and leaves.

-Part 4: Hesistation and it's results
I see this girl I want to approach, but I am waiting for her to get out of line. I end up assisting her in looking for a book. Then I bust the opener, but it wasn't really "opening" her. We get into a brief conversation, but it stalls when the details get a little deeper (how she cheated on her bf, and he cheated on her) and I don't want to run the risk of offending someone while on the job - otherwise I would have tried to find out her whole life story.
I need to come up with some neutral topics to prolong the conversation, yet keep her interested in the conversation and enjoying herself, any ideas?

-Part 5: Sticking to my guns
I nearly make an excuse to not approach this one cute little skater chick, and there are people like 5 feet away from her, checking out other books. I am afraid they might hear me. BUT, I man up, and open her, maybe talking a little too fast, and say "Hey, I need a female opinion. Who cheats more, guys or girls?" She replies "Um... no hablo ingles" Then, in halting English she says "Maybe I understand if you speak slow." I repeat the question and she says "Guys." I feel a little discouraged because I don't want to try so hard to open if she can barely understand me. So I say thanks, and leave. I walk away and then think, maybe this could be a learning experience, so I turn around and go up to her and say "Okay, why?" She shrugs, and doesn't answer. I am done with this one. I say thanks and leave.

-Part 6: Discovery of a good compliment
Later on, my boss, who is sexy as hell, and we always have C&F banter, accuses me of slacking. I say "You're the funniest woman I've ever met."

And she says "Thank you! No one's ever said that to me before." I think it had a good effect, and that type of compliment I can use on any woman

(when the time is right) and they will feel great.

-Part 7: Cute story/joke to tell girls.
"Girls pee in the beach. You can tell because they are all tightly wound up as they're walking into the water, and as soon as they get in, they get this relaxed look on their face and they sigh - this is when they pee." My cousin told me this, although in a funnier way, with body language and gestures, and when I told this to some co-workers they busted out laughing and said, it's so true! I think this is a good one for young chicks in the 18-25 age range. Older might get offended by it.

So, my score is: 2 approaches. I need about at least 23 more, or however many it takes for me to be comfortable approaching anywhere. I need to find a wider array of openers, though.
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What drove me to do this:

I looked back on the time of when I was a freshman in high school. I saw the drumline and was like oh wow, they are good, I don't think I'll ever be able to drum THAT fast. I got put playing the xylophones, which was a cool experience, but I was downtrodden a lot whenever I used to see the drumline play, while I was stuck playing the geeky ass xylophone. I practiced that year like a maniac. If I had to write with my right hand, I'd
practice my left hand. If I took a ****, I would take a practice pad and drumsticks and practice. I'd practice while watching TV. During classes I would practice. During lunch I would practice. While waiting for a ride I'd practice. I'd even practice AFTER practice. It was my obsession. When I could, I got some of the other drummers to work with me. Sometimes I just went to watch them play and tried to learn by ear. I went to websites and learned some exercises, and practiced some more. I loved it. By my sophomore year, I was really good at drumming. I made the drumline that year (and became one of the best players there), and everyone was like wow, and happy for me. After I became a bad-ass, I had the option to do Drum Corps for Boston Crusaders - not the best in the country, but a very good drumline. Drum Corps is like a professional marching band, and even the worst players there blow away really good players. I even started teaching drumming for a while. Here's where this is relevant.

I parallel this to becoming a PUA/DJ. I beceme great at things when I get obsessed and commit myself to it. So instead of my previous scientific approach of going to a club, or a county away once a weekend, I am trying to do it every chance I get. If I'm not on the field, I'll be theorizing. Of course, I have to balance this with college courses, too, but damn this is a much better approach. Okay, so instead of studying like I'm supposed to
now, I'll do like I did in high school and look for some more openers.

This is ****ing great.

-Nocturnal (fastseduction.com)
-AresX (sosuave.com)
http://profiles.myspace.com/users/4381937

 

[Aresx]

FR/PR: Another try at sarging
Date: 9/23/04

I was using the Opinion opener today, since that's all I've had. I'm trying to make this automatic, and without the slightest hesitation, because I still pause before I appraoch a girl. I'm doing this at work, so I can't always follow the 3s rule (I might be with a customer), so I just open as soon as I get a chance. Also, this is the main content of my interaction with the girls, no number exchanges, no names. I'm just getting myself to be able to approach like it's nothing.


-Part 1: My first 2 set
I see these two girls with this one average guy. I go up to them later, and as I'm about to open, the guy leaves. I was looking forward to seeing how a guy in the group would react to me opening his friends. Anyway, ask the question, get an answer, say bye. This doesn't sound like much, but read my second FR in the bootcamp ("another miserable failure") and you'll see that for me, it's a mission itself just to become comfortable approaching girls.


-Part 2: HBmarried & HBspanish
Open a chick, and then I see a rock the size of Texas on her finger. Anyway, I'm not closing yet, just opening. I open another chick, and I run into the same problem as yesterday. She doesn't speak much english, so I have to explain the word cheat to her. I follow my own advice from yesterday, and actually stick to my guns this time, following up with the "Why?" or "What makes you think that?" and "Have you ever cheated, has a guy ever cheated on you?" thing.

At this point I start to wonder about a few things.
- I should increase kino upon first meeting.
- I need to come up with a transition or be able to follow up with more stuff

I almost didn't approach these girls for some reason. Although the fear was't tangible, I decided that I was just making excuses, which is a more subtle way in which fear can sabotage you. Since starting to open girls, I've discovered that I'm suddenly less inhibited, and that my C&F remarks around people I know have improved.


-Part 3: HBBlonde & HBbigtits
This one was a little harder for me because I was severely attracted to her, and it made me hesitant. She was kind of stand-offish. After asking the question, I didn't follow up much, and I ejected quickly. When she was leaving the store, and I was there, she pretended not to notice me.

I hesistated a lot with HBbigtits, and had two false attempts. Eventually I grabbed my sack and just did it. With her I was able to prolong after the initial opener by asking "What are you studying?" since she had a book in front of her. I ejected sooner than I could have, touching her arm and saying she procrastinated. On her way out, she smiled and waved at me.

Unfortuantely, I hesistated later on and missed an awesome 2-set. ****.


-Part 4: HBcolorguard & HBtonedbody

I opened this girl. After the initial opener, I prolonged the conversation by commenting on the shirt she was wearing, which represented her school. She is a senior in high school, and reminds me very much of HBFriend, and I discovered she was on the color guard. Since I actually knew what color guard was, we got into a conversation about who she knew and stuff. Unfortunately, I didn't elicit values on that stuff. I should have asked why she liked it so much, what was the best parts, etc. If I was closing I could have said "Hey when's your next practice/football game, I'll come see you." Or is that an AFC thing to do (come watch a girl during practice, and I have no interaction with her - never mind, I answered my own question)?

At this point I came up with a good idea for initiating some kino - the palm reading gimmick. I could intro this by saying "OMG, you know what your hands are saying about you right now? Gimme your hand for a second, (grab it, slow and calm, trace lines with fingertip)..." Hmmm.. maybe next time.

I opened HBtonedbody and she seemed kind of on her guard. She was playing with her hair, though, but wouldn't face me directly. I kept turning away from her to see the effect of me pulling back/turning away, and it had a medium effect, but nothing to piss my pants about. We ended up having another conversation about male./female roles, and I just was so annoyed with her body language towards me that I told her I had to get back to work.


-Closing
I used to do a lot of things to impress people I know. In fact, that was one of my first motivations for becoming a PUA/DJ. Now I'm just doing it for myself, since I masturbate much less (2-3 times a day to 2-3 times in 3 days). I didn't even care when my co-workers would stare and ogle the HBtonedbody when she walked by. This is great. And I don't have to brag to anyone anymore... I can just do that here, and actually get useful feedback or flamed (which will keep me aware of when to draw the line).

Holy crap, that's 7 approaches in 8 hours (Hey, I'm at work, too). And the 2-set at the beginning counts as 1 approach. Wow, this is not much, but compare this to my first two FR's.

So I'm up to 9 approaches so far. Yay.

-Nocturnal (fastseduction.com)
-AresX (sosuave.com)

 

[Aresx]

FR: Short report, for once
Date: 9/26/04

HB 6.5
Ah, she had on tight red pants, a slinky black top, and a PINK bookbag... wtf. Anyway open her with the only one I have, opinion on who cheats more. Want to see how far I get when I just improv it, so..

I take a look at the book in her hand and reach over and pluck it. I say, ooh why are you reading this? She closes off to me, and pretends to look for another book on the shelf, just so she can kind of turn away from me while she's answering. So I just say thanks and eject.

Ah well, no hard feelings towards her. She is a small but important part in the process of my self-improvement.

Thanks rejection chick.

-Nocturnal/AresX

 

[Jon341427]

my advice to you for when out at parties/clubs is to go with a friend who knows about this forum too. it makes things a lot easier. its like lifting with a partner; you two motivate eachother to keep going and to work harder. And dont get too drunk, you may think drinking more may help you out but in reality it wont. what ive done is i found out how many shots i take to keep me in the best mood where i will remember everything and still know what im doing. So when me and my friends pre game, i only drink 7 shots then we hit up the parties/clubs.

Another thing, when at clubs/parties think about it this way.... the girls there are there to meet people! So it should be easier to approach at bars/clubs then in a mall/book store (at least for me it is). When i approach in a bar/club i dont ask their opinion on anything. I just walk up to them and say hello with a smile on my face, if i go up to a group first i introduce my friend or vice versa, then we break off to whoever in the group we want to talk to.

When im not in a drinking setting (bar/club/party) what im going to try to start doing is something i made up the other night. im going to go up to a girl give her a big smile like ive known her for awhile and be like heyyy how are you doing? she will do one of two things, say hi back or answer the question, or be like do i know you? (by the way i will say it, im almost sure she will say the 2nd) then i will say something to the effect of, Yeah! your jen right? we used to talk back in our chemistry class! then she will be like sorry you have the wrong person. thats when i will say something like "damn (with a big smile on my face still, when your smiling they usually are too which makes everything easier) so i just walked up to a stanger?" this is where she will most likely giggle or just smile again and say yes. then i will be like well, since i walked up to you, i might as well meet you, whats your name? thats when ill get into the fluff talk then # close.

if she does not say do i know you? and instead replies to my question (how she are you?), then after she answers i will be like i havent seen you in awhile what have you been up to? then she will ask if she knows me then i will continue with what i said above.

If she is one of those people who just thinks she forgot about me and doesnt want to tell me (least likely to happen), then i will just ask her a question like, "do you still talk to megan from that chemistry class we were in?" this will get her to finally give me the response im looking for, then ill continue with what i said above.

most pick up lines dont work, i usually just start with saying hi, but i think this one might work for a few reasons

a. i limit the responses she can give by what im saying/asking
b. it lightens the mood because it makes me seem foolish and silly for making an honest mistake like that (honest mistake haha)
c. with a lighter mood, she will be more open to chat.

last night is, in your last post you said you

"I take a look at the book in her hand and reach over and pluck it."

if you meant you snacked the book from her hand hahaha, thats a terrible thing to do. especially if you have not even exchanged any words.

good luck and keep up the good work

 

[Aresx]

lol..

no i took the book after i opened her...

man i've bcome obsessed with game...
in a way, thats awesome, because that's how i become really good at anything - but unfortunately the rest of my life gets ignored in the process... i need to find a balance.

at least i found a lair/pair now, which is ****in awesome... now i can get into the game even deeper.

my MAJOR REALIZATION:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59806&highlight=Major+Realization

 

[chicksrock]

Read through your stuff Arex...welldone you are a very quick learner.

I think you are doing very well and progressing very nicely.

Advice when doing approaches:

1)screw the textbook opinion opener and try to come up with something on the fly. Even just a "Hi" , "whats up?" , "busy there?" is very good. And just build up the conversation from there.

2)Work on ****y and Funny voice tone and facial expressions.

3)Assume you are sexy and cool and fun and irresistable to women when you approach and talk to her. This will be reflected to her in your style of talking.

4)when conversing don't try too much to impress. Be calm, confident, composed, normal and cool.

5)I was also all hyped up about seduction/macking and stuff in the beginning. Be careful of not being to childlike about this whole thing like I was.... it hurt my game....I was doing approaches as I found it funny.....

Be SERIOUS cool calm and collected about the whole thing. This will improve your execution. You will be able to number close, etc

Playing the DJ game is fun definitely....but don't forget ever lose sight of your intentions and goals.

But nevertheless continue to practice, it improves your confidence and social interaction IQ.

6) Gee you are a horny bastard with the phone sex with a 16yo


Good luck! hope my advice gives you new insights!

 

[Aresx]

"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and

missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed. "
--Michael Jordan

FR/FU: Relapse
Date: 9/30/04

I had planned to go to Walmart/Walgreens tonight to do some massive sarging. But the guy I spoke to about the Miami LAIR calls me up after I get out of class, and we decide to meet up to get to know the group.

-Part 1: Meeting Greg and Miguel
I meet them at TGI Fridays restaurant across from UM. The girls passing by are ****ing hot, and pay us no attention - would be a great place to sarge once I get good enough. HBFriend's ex used to work there, and the guy was a natural DJ... unfortunately he's now celibate as he's mad at the world for contracting herpes (even though he wore a condom... he went down on some girl). ANYWAY...

I meet Miguel. He seems normal enough. He's ALMOST below average looking. But from what Greg told me later, he's pretty good, due to:
1) He doesn't care, and it shows in his body language and demeanor
2) He's picky
3) He's very social, so talking to a girl is no different than talking to a guy for him

Then Greg shows up. OMG, what a nerd. His shirt is tucked in tight, and his jeans are about an inch too short, showing his white socks over his black shoes. Yikes. The first thought that runs through my head is "****, I hope these guys don't screw up my game..."
...Oh, the ironies of life.

After we eat and chat, Miguel decides to call it a night, and Greg comes up with the idea of sarging at Coconut Grove. I'm reluctant, but I eventually agree.

-Part 2: The Grove
OMFG, there are SO MANY fine chicks here. All over the place, like ants.

As we're walking, Greg tries to stop a 2set by walking backward and saying "Have you ever had a perfect moment..." They look at him, and keep walking. I'm thinking "Damn, what a ****ing lame-ass."
Jiminy Cricket on my shoulder pipes up "It's more than you're doing, *****."

Greg tries to get me to approach so many girls, but I back out on all of them. He's correcting my body language by separating my hands when I cross them in front of me, and telling me to slow down my drinking - I look nervous. At this point I am nervous because I'm afraid someone might see him touching me and assume I'm gay. Dammit, why can't I get rid of that **** already!!!

Later, in the final bar we go to, he opens another chick in a 2set while I sit and watch a few feet away. I use the tactic of pretending to be on my cell phone - wow, how WBAFC of me. They are chatting, she's smiling and enjoying the attention, and then he comes back to me. She wasn't that hot, but he still did it like nothing, just to show me. I develop a new respect for this guy.

In clubs, I feel out of place - all the guys there are taller, more muscular, and more manly-looking than me. Christ, my balls just dropped a few weeks ago (no, literally, they used to be kind of close to my body, now I look like a ****ing Rottweiler... bow down to my massive, swinging sack).

Eventually I get up the nerve to do an approach Greg suggested. I go up to a 3set, and tell them that my friend over there thinks HB6 is really cute, but is a bit shy... would it be alright if he came and talked to you? She has a boyfriend, so I eject. I realize I could have stayed and rolled with it, but my massive, swinging sack didn't feel so massive nor loose at the moment. I walk around trying to gather the courage to approach another set.

Then, right as we're about to leave, I make one last desperate attempt. I open up a 5set (or a 3set and a 2set sitting next to each other) with my canned opinion opener. They answer then I get the cold shoulder while I'm trying to follow up.

Then I ask the couple next to me, who cheats more guys or girls. The guy looks at me and says, "ME".

There, I did my horrible club approach, so I leave. On the way out, this 2set is coming towards me and Greg. I say the same opener, they completely ****ing ignore me... I even reach out and touch one girl's arm and say HEY

To save face, I turn to the two guys next to me and ask them that. They look at me like I'm a ****ing freak and blow me off. Without thinking, I blurt out "Alright, well **** you then." And turn around. I don't think they heard me, or else I would have gotten in a fight.

It's time for Greg to go home, so we get ready to leave. I am steaming at myself for *****ing out like that. So I vow to go to Walmart and complete my original plan anyway, although it's late and I'm severely sleep deprived.

-Part 3: Walmart
I drive to Walmart, and when I park, I just lean back for a few minutes. I open my eyes, and 45 minutes have passed, and I'm ****ing disoriented, and have no idea where I am - oh yeah, Walmart. My stubborn ass walks in there at 3:15am on a Thursday night, expecting to find people to approach. It's completely empty. Maybe one customer in the entire store... oh no, wait, he works here, too.

I say **** this, I buy a caffeine drink and leave, I come here and write this FR as I hang my head in shame.

-Part 4: Reflections
That opinion opener sucks. It was great for popping my cherry but now I need to move on.
Me: Hey, sucky opener.
Sucky opener: Yeah? !
Me: LJBF.
Sucky opener: *cries*

I need to be more social in general. I'm going to have to shift gears here and start talking to everyone like the world is my house, and it's my birthday.

My inner game needs a lot of work. 'Nuff said.

-Nocturnal/AresX

P.S. Believe me guys, I'm as disappointed (or more) in this Field Report as you are.

P.P.S. On the bright side, HBFriend still doesn't respond to my advances, although we're comfortable resting our hands on each others parts (my **** and her ass). She wants me to take her to Miami Velvet - she's single now, and really wants to go. Miami Velvet, by the way, is a swinger's club.

Surreal.