"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Addicted to being a chode

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Every time I think about pushing myself or my comfort zone. I get this bad feeling in my stomach and I question whether I really should be doing what I am doing. I’m tired of it. This feeling is what’s keeping me from approaching, From pushing my comfort zone, It even stops me from being me most of the time.

I think what it boils down to is this: I haven’t accepted that I am a chode yet. If I was t tell if I was an alpha, I would say no because I don’t **** girls on a consistent rate ( or at all) at the same time, I don’t think I am a chode because I feel as if I am above that and I can do better than a chode ( I know some really bad chode from high school. I am WAY more out going than them. Though I still don’t laid) so if I’m not even approaching, then I must be a chode. There’s no other way about it.

What would you say would be the best way to overcome this “ feeling I keep getting” it’s so bad *I was thinking about going to the free tour this coming nonmember and the thought of it just started to turn my stomach. How can I overcome this.

And YES I know that approaching TONES of girls would help. But with this feeling I can’t do it at all. So there no point in telling me to just approach.. becauseit JUST don’t happen
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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you seem pretty critical of yourself. tells me you might set your goals too high most of the time and set yourself up for disappointment.

so my advice, just make a step out of your comfort zone once in a while, dont try to jump out of it all at once.

and what is this "nonmember"? freudian slip? you feeling emasculated? seems to me you putting too much energy into blaming yourself and less in things that benefit you. change that.

last thing: the unknown scares us and makes us feel uncomfortable. all of us. this fear and sick feeling in your stomach should tell you that it is important. and nothing more. and just imagine how you will feel once you got past that.

big wins consist of small victories. so maybe as a starter you say "fock it" and just take that trip and let yourself be surprised of what happens. let your expectations stay at home but take an open mind with you.
 

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Packers2010 said:
Every time I think about pushing myself or my comfort zone. I get this bad feeling in my stomach and I question whether I really should be doing what I am doing. I’m tired of it. This feeling is what’s keeping me from approaching, From pushing my comfort zone, It even stops me from being me most of the time.
Courage is not the absence of fear. Courage is feeling fear and doing it anyways.

If I was t tell if I was an alpha, I would say no because I don’t **** girls on a consistent rate ( or at all) at the same time, I don’t think I am a chode because I feel as if I am above that and I can do better than a chode ( I know some really bad chode from high school. I am WAY more out going than them. Though I still don’t laid) so if I’m not even approaching, then I must be a chode. There’s no other way about it.
Alpha has many definitions. You don't focus on being alpha. That is a summary of many things you are doing.

The more you focus on it, the worse off you are.

What would you say would be the best way to overcome this “ feeling I keep getting” it’s so bad *I was thinking about going to the free tour this coming nonmember and the thought of it just started to turn my stomach. How can I overcome this.
Man up. You want something, go get it. Or at least try.

Stop trying to be alpha and start doing the right thing. Who cares what people think of you? What matters most is what you think of yourself. Just get it done.

And YES I know that approaching TONES of girls would help. But with this feeling I can’t do it at all. So there no point in telling me to just approach.. becauseit JUST don’t happen
You don't become alpha by hitting on a bunch of girls just for the sake of hitting on a bunch of girls.

Seriously. Dude...
 

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Packers2010 said:
Every time I think about pushing myself or my comfort zone. I get this bad feeling in my stomach and I question whether I really should be doing what I am doing. I’m tired of it. This feeling is what’s keeping me from approaching, From pushing my comfort zone, It even stops me from being me most of the time.

I think what it boils down to is this: I haven’t accepted that I am a chode yet. If I was t tell if I was an alpha, I would say no because I don’t **** girls on a consistent rate ( or at all) at the same time, I don’t think I am a chode because I feel as if I am above that and I can do better than a chode ( I know some really bad chode from high school. I am WAY more out going than them. Though I still don’t laid) so if I’m not even approaching, then I must be a chode. There’s no other way about it.

What would you say would be the best way to overcome this “ feeling I keep getting” it’s so bad *I was thinking about going to the free tour this coming nonmember and the thought of it just started to turn my stomach. How can I overcome this.

And YES I know that approaching TONES of girls would help. But with this feeling I can’t do it at all. So there no point in telling me to just approach.. becauseit JUST don’t happen

My Advice? Don't do anything.

Why? Because eventually the pain of being a "chode", as you've described yourself to be, will be so strong that you will FORCE yourself to get out and approach.
 
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Just smile and have small talk with random people throughout your day. Get comfortable just opening up anyone, chicks would be no problem afterwards. If you aren't going to give it a shot, change your sig.

Packers2010 said:
Sooner or later, if you're any kind of man, you got to step up...step out, and see what the f@ck you got!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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It sounds to me like you have depression and anxiety. This is a common problem and nothing to be ashamed of. 20% of people become depressed at some time in their lives, and it is due to a combination of things happening in your life and chemical imbalances in your brain. It is a treatable condition and all you would have to do is go talk to your family medicine doctor who can give you an antidepressant. It is nothing to be ashamed of, it will improve your attitude and the way you see the world (and therby make you more attractive), and it is only temporary. That is my suggestion.
 

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Alle_Gory said:
Stop trying to be alpha and start doing the right thing. Who cares what people think of you? What matters most is what you think of yourself. Just get it done.



You don't become alpha by hitting on a bunch of girls just for the sake of hitting on a bunch of girls.

Seriously. Dude...

i talked about " alpha" there as a huge simplification. to me " alpha" is just a word that i use for someone who gets girls. it's just easy to say that then go into to some long drawn out speech about what i want. i know what i want. i just can't get there yet. though i get what your saying, i do put too much meaning into it.
 

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Just smile and have small talk with random people throughout your day. Get comfortable just opening up anyone, chicks would be no problem afterwards. If you aren't going to give it a shot, change your sig.

i have been trying. what my problem is this is holding me back. it's not letting me do what I want.

the difference between a guy who is good with girls and someone who is not is 1000 approaches. i'm not trying to take any shortcuts or look for a magic pill. i'm just trying to get over this hurdle just enough so i can start my own crazy journey,

every time i try, I come up with some excuse not to do it and do the same **** i always do. Jerk it too some crappy porn.
 

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dap said:
It sounds to me like you have depression and anxiety. This is a common problem and nothing to be ashamed of. 20% of people become depressed at some time in their lives, and it is due to a combination of things happening in your life and chemical imbalances in your brain. It is a treatable condition and all you would have to do is go talk to your family medicine doctor who can give you an antidepressant. It is nothing to be ashamed of, it will improve your attitude and the way you see the world (and therby make you more attractive), and it is only temporary. That is my suggestion.

surely you can't be serious?

I know what depression is. i used to be that way as a KID. i used to cut too. trust me i am happy now.. i just don't like a few things in my life. witch are sort of out of my control At the moment.
 
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I for some odd reason thought this thread was titled "Addicted to being a cholo".
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Packers2010 said:
surely you can't be serious?

I know what depression is. i used to be that way as a KID. i used to cut too. trust me i am happy now.. i just don't like a few things in my life. witch are sort of out of my control At the moment.
I'm not a doctor and I'm glad you have thought about this stuff before. My impression was that the feeling that you were getting in your stomach (classic anxiety) was interferring with your life, and seeing that anxiety is something that is easily treatable, I thought that you may be receptive to talking to someone/taking medication. If you feel that this is a minor issue, then forget it. Some anxiety is normal.
 
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