"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Adam Levine and Female Voices

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I notice Adam Levine, singer of Maroon 5, won People Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive for this year. Now aside from the fact that things like this are bullsh!t for the most part (I almost never agree with "Sexiest Woman" choices), is there anything to be taken from this?

On the one hand, he does often wear the "five o'clock shadow" look that girls say that they like so well. That look doesn't work for me, unfortunately, since my facial hair comes out like steel wool lol.

On the other hand, the guy sings in a high falsetto, similar to a female's voice. PUA gurus often tell you to talk in a deep, booming voice, because that's what girls find sexy. This certainly does not match up in this case.

I listen to the pop radio station sometimes (I usually flip around to different channels and different genres). I notice that deep, masculine voices are conspicuously rare on the pop channels for the most part (there are a few exceptions). Most of the singers on the pop stations are female, in fact. Guy voices are as likely as not to be rapping. This is interesting to me because when I was growing up most voices (and bands) on the pop chart were male.

Is this current favoring of the female voice part of the demasculinization of the modern male? And I might ask the same question about Adam Levine, with his high pitched voice, being promoted as the height of male sexuality.
 

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zekko said:
Is this current favoring of the female voice part of the demasculinization of the modern male? And I might ask the same question about Adam Levine, with his high pitched voice, being promoted as the height of male sexuality.
Likely, but I don't think it is a conscious or intentional demasculinization. We are all products of our environment, and I would argue that who we are most strongly attracted to is the person who most accurately represents what we saw in our parents when we were young. Every woman I've been attracted to had a strong mix of my mother's and father's qualities.

In light of the divorce rates, today's young women and girls don't see much of dad, and see way too much of mom. It makes sense why they're drawn to these prettyboys; because they mimic what they saw in mom while growing up; pure estrogen, whiny-ness, victimhood, bitterness toward men, and flamboyance. Because today's younger women are drawn to these types of men, it would make sense that record companies would push for more effeminate men and it would also make sense why a guy like Adam Levine with his high-pitched voice would be deemed sexy.

To answer your question, I don't think it's a conscious demasculinization of men, but it is a demasculinization that is naturally, and unconsciously occurring as a result of the family system (and gender roles) being utterly ruined by feminism and mangina courts as well as other factors of less magnitude.

The more we say that fathers don't matter, the more sexy the effeminate man becomes. Most women I know who are attracted to traditionally "manly" men and who would laugh at dudes like Adam Levine are women who grew up in stable homes where both mother and father were present.

TLDR: Yes it is part of the demasculinization of the modern male, but it is not conscious or intentional. Remove dad from the picture and you're left with mom teaching you how to do life. Naturally, you'll find men with female qualities attractive and naturally, record companies and the media will try to profit from this.
 

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origin138 said:
Likely, but I don't think it is a conscious or intentional demasculinization. We are all products of our environment, and I would argue that who we are most strongly attracted to is the person who most accurately represents what we saw in our parents when we were young. Every woman I've been attracted to had a strong mix of my mother's and father's qualities.

In light of the divorce rates, today's young women and girls don't see much of dad, and see way too much of mom. It makes sense why they're drawn to these prettyboys; because they mimic what they saw in mom while growing up; pure estrogen, whiny-ness, victimhood, bitterness toward men, and flamboyance.
Very interesting point. You may be on to something there. Perhaps the reason "popular" music is more feminine and female-based these days is because more people are growing up with just mom in the home.

At this point I want to claim music was more masculine in my day (classic rock was the popular music of the day instead of Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, and Miley Cyrus). But I know someone will tell me about all the rock that is around these days. I'm aware of it; But bear in mind I'm talking about "pop" music here.

origin138 said:
Because today's younger women are drawn to these types of men, it would make sense that record companies would push for more effeminate men and it would also make sense why a guy like Adam Levine with his high-pitched voice would be deemed sexy.
I keep reading things like this on this forum. About how women are now attracted to these effeminate men. But isn't game based on the idea that women are attracted to the masculine? I don't know of too many PUA articles telling you to act more like a female to attract women.
 

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You should pose this question to bradd80. He is a big fan of Adam Levine and his music!
 

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He's a good looking dude to say the least. Has some tats, thrown in some stubble and some pop songs for the chicks and boom, they lap it up.

My ex has a major, major thing for him. I don't look like him but she swears I do. Like, if my stubble was perfect, the light hit me exactly right and my hair was a certain way. Maybe then. But she rationalized it. Hamster a spinnin.

I rolled with it.
 

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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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