"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Active or passive?

Die Hard

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So you just met the typical HB8 attention wh0re. She shows IOI's, you have a fun conversation with her and she responds well to your kino. You exchange numbers and agree to meet up. Today is an option, otherwise it's gonna be next weekend. She says she can probably make tonight, around 7 o'clock, she just has to reschedule with her girlfriend. She tells you she will Whatsapp you about it later on.

It's 5.45 now and I haven't heard from her yet, even though she was online just now.

I'm hesitant about the best approach. I either stay silent and leave it up to her. If she doesn't message me before 7 (or after) and today is off, I don't give a fvck, I got other stuff to do.
This is the approach that I lean towards, it's the passive approach... She told me she would message me so I shouldn't message her first. She promised something, now she has to do it. If I message her first, it tells her she can make promises and not keep them coz I will chase after her anyway....

On the other hand, I could go for a more active approach... Which means I message her and tell her if she wants to meet up around 7, I need to know now coz otherwise I won't have enough time to get ready. Something like that...
This approach seems a bit weaker to me, coz like I said, SHE isn't living up to her promise. So me messaging her first comes off a bit weak, as if I want the meetup to happen tonight more than she does... If she's eager to meetup tonight, then she has to message me like she said, right? Why should I initiate contact about it?
Then again, she might appreciate me setting out clear lines and taking charge by telling her what I expect. Typical HB8 attention wh0res often like men taking charge and taking an active approach to them, telling them like it is, right?

So that's the trade off... Staying silent would send out a clear signal, albeit a passive one: that I'm expecting her to message me like she promised and if she doesn't, I won't come chasing after her like a weak azz chump. But somehow I can also see how she would like me to literally tell her the same thing in an ACTIVE way, by actually speaking out my opinion.

Thoughts?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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cordoncordon

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Honestly if a girl whom I just met told me she would message me by a certain time to go out that night and then she never did message me? That is about as low interest as you can get and I would delete her contact info and forget about her. Not saying that is what she will end up doing tonight, just IF.

I guess to answer your question though the answer is I would not contact her.
 

VladPatton

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It's 5.45 now and I haven't heard from her yet, even though she was online just now.

I'd stop right here. If she doesn't follow through by way of her own appointment time, then she gives zero shıts about you or the date.

Gotta leave it be and if she pulls one more you Next her.
 
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