"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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accidentally overheard a conversation between female friends about me

princesimba

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dont ask me how, but i overheard a couple of female friends saying this about me:

girl1: Oh princesimba is such a kid! everything he does is so childlike! (giggles)
girl2: i know i know!! (giggles even more)
then the 2 of em just starts giggling nonstop and i guess continue gossiping about me

The 2 of them arent very close friends, just friends.

Not quite sure what it meant. Not that im interested in either girl, just thought that it might be an opportunity for me to improve myself :D
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Who fcuking knows, could mean anything. Or, more likely: nothing.
 

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Fact: Everyone has an opinion, is going to gossip, judge, possibly talk ****, compare you to others, try to define you with their simple-minded viewpoints, etc. The worst thing you can do is take anything people say to heart, believe their crap, let them define you, try to seek their approval, or change yourself to appease them. You cant appeal to them all, and dont need to. A lot of people are going to judge, criticize, and hate for no reason. **** 'em. You'll never gain their approval, or get them to change their minds about you. Even trying to puts you in a weak position, and puts other people in control of your life. People can spot a try-hard or approval-seeker, and trample all over them.

This is what you should do about this:

Stop caring what other people think

Throw that ***** into Google search.
 

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princesimba said:
dont ask me how, but i overheard a couple of female friends saying this about me:

girl1: Oh princesimba is such a kid! everything he does is so childlike! (giggles)
girl2: i know i know!! (giggles even more)
then the 2 of em just starts giggling nonstop and i guess continue gossiping about me

The 2 of them arent very close friends, just friends.

Not quite sure what it meant. Not that im interested in either girl, just thought that it might be an opportunity for me to improve myself :D
Yes, because gossiping and giggling about this **** isn't childis at all.

Screw them, don't take what they say seriously. No matter what you do or how well you do something there will be people gossiping sh!t about you.

Some b!tches will always talk sh!t no matter what, I know a lot of people like this, honestly I'd love to shot them in the face but that's not possible so ingoring them and living your life the way you want is the next best thing to do.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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you don't women by their words, judge it by their actions and the fact that they are giggling and not saying anything particularly bad about you means its a good sign.

I'm assuming their laugh was more of a childish girly laugh which means they find your childish side pretty funny/cute. Most girls wish they could find a guy who can make them feel like a little girl and get all giddy but at the same time can be a man too.

It all depends on the laugh and their tone of voice. If they are talking about you and their generally mood is happy, that's a good sign and vice versa.
 

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Childlike is good. Childish is bad.

But either way, it doesn't sound like they want to rip your clothes off...
 

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Maybe you aren't very mature /manly...?
 

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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Even bad publicity is good publicity. When no one talks about you, then you have problems.
 

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princesimba said:
dont ask me how, but i overheard a couple of female friends saying this about me:

girl1: Oh princesimba is such a kid! everything he does is so childlike! (giggles)
girl2: i know i know!! (giggles even more)
then the 2 of em just starts giggling nonstop and i guess continue gossiping about me

The 2 of them arent very close friends, just friends.

Not quite sure what it meant. Not that im interested in either girl, just thought that it might be an opportunity for me to improve myself :D
they might think you are "cute", that doesn`t necessary means they`ll fvck you, the only way to know for sure is to escalate when appropriate

but that should be second nature to man

so make this a rule, if your wiener is in her mouth she likes regardless of what she tells about you, if your wiener is in your hand while thinking of her, well than she doesn`t like you

to be sure, go to her place and unzip your pants

case closed!
 

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Nothing good from that convo. They have little respect for you and for whatever reason they think you act like a kid. Not a good combo. I would look at your behavior around them and adjust accordingly.

And OT: I see jammer and Sarcastic Sam were banned while posting on the China thread. Good. He was the same guy using the different alias's, and is either mynameisnobody or Big Jim. Not sure which.
 

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princesimba said:
dont ask me how, but i overheard a couple of female friends saying this about me:

girl1: Oh princesimba is such a kid! everything he does is so childlike! (giggles)
girl2: i know i know!! (giggles even more)
then the 2 of em just starts giggling nonstop and i guess continue gossiping about me

The 2 of them arent very close friends, just friends.

Not quite sure what it meant. Not that im interested in either girl, just thought that it might be an opportunity for me to improve myself :D
Oh the irony of two girls calling you a "kid" and then giggling about it like little school girls is delicious.
 

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i once heard a few girls talking about me. they said i was too serious. could be worse.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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bradd80 said:
No this isn't good. Girls calling you a "kid" and "childlike" is NOT a good thing. And OP, you're misreading the advice given by Pook. He's telling you to tease women as if they are little girls. He's not telling you to act like a child, only to tease women as if they are little girls. Do you see the difference?

OP how old are you anyway? Start acting like a man. Stop acting like a child. Obviously it's not just one girl who thinks this way.
I have to disagree. Pook explicitly said in his post:

“Are you saying that I ought to be child-like?”

“Yes!"

However, you're absolutely right that its not just one girl who thinks this way.
I do recall that there are girls who has called me "a little boy" but still wanted to !@#$ me.

I do have game, and im definitely a man. I just choose to keep in touch with my "child" side because i find it makes me more spontaneous and fun. Thats just who i am!
 

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princesimba said:
I have to disagree. Pook explicitly said in his post:

“Are you saying that I ought to be child-like?”

“Yes!"

However, you're absolutely right that its not just one girl who thinks this way.
I do recall that there are girls who has called me "a little boy" but still wanted to !@#$ me.

I do have game, and im definitely a man. I just choose to keep in touch with my "child" side because i find it makes me more spontaneous and fun. Thats just who i am!

case #1
it`s one thing being child like as in having a self-esteem of a child and not fearing the world, while always being in creative/curios wonder

case #2
and there`s being an internet nerd, who takes loose advice as the gospel , than uses words taken out of context, to rationalize backwards results he never had, to protect his ego

... this is not my first time on a seduction forum

and based on my experience you are case #2 with a probability of 90%

I hope you wake up from your haze some day kid

good bye
 

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Their words don't matter. At all. It could mean any of a million things, and none of them are relevant.

Get her number. Go on a date with her. Kiss her. Fvck her. Does she do all those things? If so, she's into you. If not, she isn't into you. That's all you need to care about.
 

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saturnalia said:
case #1
it`s one thing being child like as in having a self-esteem of a child and not fearing the world, while always being in creative/curios wonder

case #2
and there`s being an internet nerd, who takes loose advice as the gospel , than uses words taken out of context, to rationalize backwards results he never had, to protect his ego

... this is not my first time on a seduction forum

and based on my experience you are case #2 with a probability of 90%

I hope you wake up from your haze some day kid

good bye
LOL :crackup:

Well at least you have the decency to add in that theres a 10% chance you're wrong

still, thank you all for your comments. Got my "answer" today, and guess what? Being a "kid" does work :D as long as you're the "kid" that pook talked about.

Moral of the story: Pook is a genius!!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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