"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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... Accepting flirt in a bad relationship.

European-DJ

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I had a thought of mine, which I would like to discuss.

I remember my last relationship, things went wrong, and one day my girl tells me that she was at a party with a lot of guys, who flirted with her, to which I reacted with 'anger'.

But how about it you react with indifference?

What's my point.

Could it trigger her interest level, if you all of the sudden didn't care, when she is used to guys getting upset, or do you think it would result in her flirting with a ton of guys?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Read more, post less. What do you think the basic premise of this site is? It's about *not* playing womens stupid games...or turning the game on them.
 

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Trailboss said:
Read more, post less. What do you think the basic premise of this site is? It's about *not* playing womens stupid games...or turning the game on them.
He's right. You don't play her games. If the relationship starts to turn sour, you're better off just walking away, or if you have the same code of ethics that most women have, then meet another one before dumping your current girlfriend. I actually don't reccommend doing that but breaking clean before meeting another woman or spending some time alone, away from women.

The more I see how ruthless many women are in their dealings with men, the less I'm starting to care about their feelings. That's when you, as a man, have to fall back on your code of ethics and not resort to behaviors that violate your code. Even when your emotions become involved.
 

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Aristippus said:
The more I see how ruthless many women are in their dealings with men, the less I'm starting to care about their feelings. That's when you, as a man, have to fall back on your code of ethics and not resort to behaviors that violate your code. Even when your emotions become involved.
Damn straight!! Some of the women I have dealt with...man....they would give Stalin a run for his money in the "Ruthlessness" department!! I should probably stick around one long enough to find out "why" she is the way she is but....what's the difference? I'm just a *man*...I ain't changing sh*t......!!
 

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Just to respond to the OP, guys will flirt with any and every girl at a party that doesn't seem to already have a guy with her. That's just the nature of parties: girls go to them, guys hit on them, no matter how ugly they or the girl may be.

There's a line between your girlfriend being friendly to these guys so she doesn't come off as a ***** and your girlfriend being a slut. When she noticed they were flirting, the old "I have a boyfriend" would be an appropriate response, followed by ignoring or being a ***** if they continued to hound her. If she continued with the banter, then she's just a slut.

If my girlfriend told me these things, I would be concerned but wouldn't start any drama, I'd act indifferent and just say "Oh did they?" and leave it at that. Guys can try to get some all they want, but if they don't then there is no cause for alarm.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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European-DJ said:
I had a thought of mine, which I would like to discuss.

I remember my last relationship, things went wrong, and one day my girl tells me that she was at a party with a lot of guys, who flirted with her, to which I reacted with 'anger'.

But how about it you react with indifference?
Regardless if you're with her or not this a sh*t test in my book.

My reply/reaction:
"Yea? Girls flirt with me all the time too." then continue whatever i was doing.

You failed that sh*t test btw.
 
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