Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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About your oneitis. . .

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I was writing this as a response in a thread about some guy who is obsessed with a girl who is "different." She's his oneitis and he has to have her. I decided this is general enough to be a thread on its own on how having a oneitis illustrates that you just don't get how you're supposed to interact with women.

. . . that you HAVE to have this girl who only sees you as a friend showcases that you don't really get how the interaction between girls and boys is supposed to work. Fixating on a girl who you will (likely) never have is not how you're supposed to act. You have to kill that part of you. The part that fixates on a girl who doesn't really like you.

I used to develop oneitis for a girl and talk to her all the time and get secretly angry when she dated some other guy. I'd tell her things to try to sabotage her relationships by withholding approval of guys who were probably pretty ok dudes.

What you need to get in your head is that in any interaction between a guy and a girl, for things to go well there has to be a mutual attraction. This isn't something that you can wholly control. You have to like her, she has to like you. There're guys on this site that will tell you you can get ANY girl you want. I don't know if that's true or not, but I do know that you shouldn't underestimate that YOU are only one half of this equation.

The girl is a different person with different things she's attracted to, different norms, all sort of stuff going on in her head. She's not a formula or an automaton. You can't control her. You can't MAKE someone like you.

The best you can do is be yourself and see if she likes that (I'm a big fan of just be yourself. I don't lie to women. If I'm willing to be myself and see if she likes that, I'm ultimately saving myself loads of hassle and pain). If she doesn't like you, it's likely not anything personal, and you should just move on to someone who IS into who you are. I've learned that this is a big deal. Just because a girl doesn't like you doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you. It doesn't mean you aren't doing the right things, and treating her the right way. She's got what she's into and what she isn't. If you don't quite fit that criteria, it's no reflection of who you are, it just means that what you are isn't what she's into. It's a matter of taste on her part, short and simple.

If she doesn't like you, you will do nothing but cause yourself a lot of pain by sticking around and hoping that she will, eventually, like you. You're not really living your life when you're doing this. If a girl isn't attracted to you, you HAVE to move on.

Trying to work out some attack plan to make THIS girl like you is just bad for business. There are plenty of women who, if given the chance, would like you as you are right now. Those are the women you need to be talking to, not the ones who aren't attracted to you.

It's crass to say, "the best way to get over one girl is to get under another one," but it is best to just get out there and meet lots of other girls and see how you like them. So long as you're open to meeting someone and willing to grab your balls and show them you are interested, you'll find someone you like sooner rather than later (that's a big lesson I've learned this past year of my life. There are plenty of great, available women out there who are just waiting for a guy like me. All I have to do is grab my balls and not be afraid to show them I'm interested.)

So quit calling your oneitis. I'm not saying she's never going to like you, but how long are you willing to wait to find this out? Meet some other girls, get some phone numbers, flirt a little bit, and I'll gaurantee you'll be over the oneitis in no time.

Quit thinking about how to get her, and start thinking about the thousands of other girls out there who would be happy to have you with much less effort. It's either that, or be miserable for a few more months (or years).
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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One point you might realize is that the guys who are most often victims of oneitis don't have girls attracted to them. I've only had a couple of girls interested in me and they were what I considered 3 or 4's.

I'm the classic example of an AFC that often gets oneitis. I can't help it, I get attracted to a girls beauty and personality then I get attached.
 

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I call bull**** on that. There's not a guy on earth who hasn't had a oneitis in his past. It's not an issue of not being attractive, it's an issue of being able to move on from a hopeless situation. If she doesn't like you leave her alone. She's not GOING to like you anytime soon.
 

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The guys with oneitis keep it going because they haven't technically been rejected by her. They've never been rejected because they've never made a real move. Oneitis sufferers also believe that the girl will like him once she gets to know him.

I'm not sure what you are calling bullshit on. I didn't say that oneitis was rare. I mean that the guys who get it most often, the AFC's, don't have girls chasing them and they most likely aren't very successful with women.
It's crass to say, "the best way to get over one girl is to get under another one," but it is best to just get out there and meet lots of other girls and see how you like them. So long as you're open to meeting someone and willing to grab your balls and show them you are interested, you'll find someone you like sooner rather than later (that's a big lesson I've learned this past year of my life. There are plenty of great, available women out there who are just waiting for a guy like me. All I have to do is grab my balls and not be afraid to show them I'm interested.)

So quit calling your oneitis. I'm not saying she's never going to like you, but how long are you willing to wait to find this out? Meet some other girls, get some phone numbers, flirt a little bit, and I'll gaurantee you'll be over the oneitis in no time.
I do agree with you, but it's harder than it seems, especially for guys who are lacking experience with women.
 

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Your oneitis is usually a girl that has put you in the friend zone, but you want to date her. And you've usually spent a good deal of time with her. You've become a good friend of hers. So it's not that you think that she'd like you if she got to know you better. Your oneitis usually knows you pretty well.

It doesn't really matter if you haven't "technically" been rejected by a girl. If she goes on about things she wouldn't tell a guy she was interested in (like how much she likes guy X) then you've been rejected.

I understand cutting loose your oneitis SEEMS hard, but it's not really that bad. She'll live. It's best for you to go ahead and find other girls. They're literally EVERYWHERE. This is one of those things that guys here are really afraid of, but don't realize how simple it is. Once you get over the fear of letting go of her, and finding someone else you'll realize it's not really THAT hard.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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My version is different from what you've posted. I seem to keep getting the super AFC version of oneitis.

The vast majority of oneitis' were girls that I never even talked to. It was crushes on her beauty and not knowing anything at all about her as a person. For the record I've had 9 oneitis girls starting back from when I was 12.

My current oneitis is actually the first girl that I've talked to everyday and got to know her as a real person. The fact that she is drop dead gorgeous doesn't hurt. I still haven't spent any time with her outside of class and we only talk a little bit before class and a little bit afterwards when we walk to our cars. Honestly I probably only talk to her for about 10 minutes each day, three times a week. She knows very little about me.

I know we will go our separate ways in a couple of weeks and I'll just move her into the pile of girls I crushed on but never go. And then it will most likely happen again next semester, to be repeated forever.

BTW a rejection is a clear cut solid "no" or a "Sorry I'm not interested." My brain won't accept anything else.
 
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