"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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About becoming 'official' - who should suggest it?

shydude

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Okai I understand your story and its alright, nothing so terrible, you went out a couple times, no kiss you both wanna make a move but still holding back. Dont make anything official, you dont need it. what you need to do is go for a kiss the next time you go out, and after that see how things go and so on. Dont rush to make anything official and dont hold yourself back from sexual contact.

P.S didnt see your already kissed.

Okai now just take it easy since shes fresh at this. Remember she will be very attached to you since you are her first so called love. Dont worry about her being incomfortable, 3 years ago I was kissing with a girl who has never kissed before, she didnt wanna kiss me for 2 months cuz she was "SHY". 4 months later we were fk1ng daily.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Benivos

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Whoa!

Whoa, this is an old topic!

Well, I just happened to stop by this forum, and saw this again! Haha.

If you want an update, things have been going really well. It kinda went similarly to what shydude said. She is indeed very attached to me, and I must say I'm enjoying this relationship.

Just like shydude said, she was indeed "SHY", but after about 2-3 months, I got another kiss in, and ever since, it hasn't been a problem.

As far as 'sleeping' together goes, she's willing - or rather wants to do it with me. We're planning for the end of this month. We do not go to the same school, so we can see each other about once a week, unless I've got too much work on hand.

Really, though, I enjoy being with her. I don't mind the pace at which we're moving at, either. We've been each other's first everything so far, and it's been wonderful and meaningful.

Perhaps it's a late reply, but a big thank you to all the help in this thread! :)




Edit: Ahh, since I've posted... I've got a question. She has said twice, "I love you!", once on MSN, once via SMS (text). Both were when we were leaving, so I didn't have to reply.

How do I reply if she says this in person...?

I don't want to hurt her, I care about her... but I do find the idea of "love" for a highschool student is somewhat foolish.
 

bigjohnson

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Benivos said:
Hello, I've been going out with this girl for about a month now. To make a long story short with C+F and Kino, I've gotten to the hold-hand stage- no kiss. From what I gather, she has a very high interest level in me.

Of course, we still aren't 'official'.
My point is: Do I go ahead with it or wait and let HER do it? Who should be the one to suggest going official?

Make sure you get it in triplicate and in front of a notary, and for gods sake save the canary copy for your records.
 

Captain

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Do not even think about moving this forward if you have not kissed (at least). Also, you've been on multiple dates over a MONTH without a kiss? I smell a problem here. You need to kiss her and move things forward.

EDIT: Saw your update. Dude. If you are happy with this pace you are either a) very inexperienced with women or b) lying to yourself. Again, you need to stop planning things like sex, just get together, get her comfortable and turned on, initiate, and escalate to sex.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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