A years worth of progress: Success? or not?

[arcilitei34]

Well where should I start, after my recent LTR had ended about a month and then some ago I was on ass patrol. I have been reading The DJ boards and everything for almost the last year, to help improve myself.
I then met this one girl through one of my good friends, and we hit it off, we had very interesting internet/phone conversations. Most of the time they had some sort of horny factor to it, she always brought it up anyways. The phone conversations were written with interest, when I was webcamming her and on the phone at the same time she would always twirl her hair when she talked to me.

It had been about 2 and a half weeks and we decided that we should finally meet each other, because she kept saying I looked like some chinese movie star, and that i was hot or some shiet like that. We finally met for the first time yesterday and hit it off, we then met up with two of her good friends because they wanted to meet me. When we met up with her friends the flirting started to die down a bit, after awhile one of her friends had to leave to do something, and the flirting kinda started picking up again. We then arrived at her house met her dad, and the three of us went downstairs to watch a movie. This is where the interesting part happens.

About at the start of the movie, I told her about my awesome backrubs that i usually give, but i don't give them out for free. So she ended up tickling me as torture (One of my huge weaknesses). However she took it to a new level, she started reaching under my sweater and feeling my chest and everything, at this point i was like WHOA . Then comment's arose like "Hey feel is abs!" and stuff like that. During the movie we progressed into getting more and more closer until i ended up cuddling with her and holding hands. She kept trying to rub my stomach under my sweater.

It just gets even more interesting from here on out, her friend went upstairs to get some cd's to bring back down, and the commercial for the grudge came on and the girl i was with got really scared, so she hid under the blanket. I then started leaning in and making fun of her for being scared, and a moment later i thought to myself "She's got to be interested in me" and then i went in for the kiss, Didn't ask if she was interested, didn't ask for anything just went for it, and she complied. I normally don't kiss girls I first meet on the first day. In fact this is the first cause I was so confident enough to know that she was interested.

Her friend came down and then we both stopped because we hate public display's of affection. After that we kinda fell asleep together for awhile, and then we ended up teasing each other with our lips which was awesome, she thought I wouldn't be able to control myself and I had to, I HAD to, prove her wrong on that one, I didn't end up kissing her the whole night but we teased each other because she thought she could break me. Then on my way home I gave her a hug, but she didn't want a kiss which was really confusing. She then hinted about tomorrow, which is today, were going to a small house party together, and I'm looking forward to it.

Success? or do I still have to refine a few things?

 

[Patrick124]

sucess.
I've learend if you come to this site with expectations of a new improved you in the first month, you'll see no results.
I too have been here actively for about a year...and I'm def seeing major improvements on my past. Live if good, thanks msotly in part to this site[and of course my determination]

 

[TonyTheTigerOI]

Success!!! But you gotta refine it!!!

U met this girl on the internet? If so, its ok to meet her with friends. If you met her in person, do not meet girl when they are with friends.

You kissed a girl under a blanket... thats the cutest thing ive heard all week... WAY TO BE!!! NEVER. NEVER EVER ASK A GIRL IF SHE WANTS TO KISS, of if she is interested, or anything. You are THE MAN and she IS UNCONTROLABLY INTERESTED!!!

Lip teasing is ok... but if a girl made out with u in her basement under a blanket on the first meet she probably has high interest. Your both young and dont have much game - so to TEASE for a while is AWESOME but END IT WITH A KISS. Never DEGRESS your seduction. You went from approach/flirt to rapport/relax to touch/kiss and then jumped to teasing, which is a kind of flirting, without using it to strenghthen your touching/kissing.

The REASON she didnt kiss you goodbye was because you did not kiss her again during teasing. She was probably feeling self concius. DO NOT WORRY ABOUT IT - YOU DID AWESOME.

Go out with her again and remember to have fun and TALK TO OTHER GIRLS. But if you walk in with this girl, and u like her, you should walk out with her [and get into some makingout/sexuality].

Overview:
GREAT WORK!!!
Way to progress thru ur seduction!
Remember not to degress after you get to a certain point [unless it is for a specific reason... another person enters the room, her mom calls, ect]
Have fun tonight!

 

[Kidd]

Sucess or Failure... to me it seems like sucess. However, why do you ask us here? It is up to you to decide wether you are happy with the outcome.

 

[Supero Masculus]

Way to be man! Freaking success! All you have to do is refine it some and you are set. Just never stop improving and you are gonna keep getting these results. But, i don't wanna see you posting in a week about, "i need help with this chick." I want you to keep your options open and not to get to wrapped up in this chick. Other then a need of some fine tunning you are definently on the right track. Good job!

 

[arcilitei34]

Agh, yesterday night was the biggest WTF in the whole pursuit of this girl. Last night she invited me to a small get together with her friends, there was about 6 of us, it wasn't too bad, I decided to bring a bottle of bailey's as a show of good faith.
I showed up and we started flirting lightly, had a few drinks and then she was all over the place. I'm just going to cut to the chase, for about the first hour or so she was just pissed drunk, and i then took care of her, sobered her up (at least i thought so) and went from there. I did everything that i thought was dishonorable, while sobering her up just to shut her up i had to make out with her, I didn't really want to take advantage of this girl. A few hours later she seemed alright and we were all alone in the basement, there was then some HUGE sexuality happening.

Under the blankets and on the couch, we started to make out, she did EVERYTHING(Lick my ear, moan like crazy, rub my penis through my pants, try to get down my pants.) to try to turn me on, there was a feeling that i knew that she was still kinda drunk, and I didn't want to take advantage of that. I really like this girl, but im starting to just wonder now. While this was happening we were making out for at least 2 hours flat, eventually i got down her shirt and we ended up in our underwear, and she told me she wanted "me to fvck her". I didn't comply, i couldn't, I knew she was drunk, then as luck would have it, my friends parents woke up and came downstairs. I got dressed as fast as I fvcking could and so did she. After this i'd have to say i've got pretty good resistance against sex.

After this had happened, we tried to get to sleep, we held each other, held hands, and lightly kissed each other, needless to say i wasnt able to sleep, then the next morning came by, and she acted really distant, as did I. Before she left to go home we sat on the couch and talked for a bit and i had my arm around her and she put her head on my shoulder.

I feel really dirty right now, I feel dishonorable, I know I shouldn't have taken it as far as I did and I'm thankful it stopped when it did, if she was sober i would have been completely fine with having sex with her. I'm kinda confused as to what's going on, the night before, and after the sexual interaction, we were sleeping and cuddling together, and the next morning she's really distant, she also had a hang over as well. She perfectly know's well what we did last night. One of her friends told me that, she's always with that with guys she's interested in when she has a few drinks, it was one of my goals to have sex with her, but not like this, not like this. It's one of those nights that im not proud of what I did, and that I want to try to forget.
I'm thinking of just cutting all forms of communication with her for awhile, after what happened last night I need to sort some shiit out.

There's alot that happened, and im leaving out some details to make it shorter, if you guys need any sort of clarification just ask

 

[Supero Masculus]

Actually, i find the fact that you stopped yourself from going further shows that you have alot of self control and a strong set of morals. Thats a good thing to have in life, cause it is the deciding thing of your actions. Obviously you could've fwcked her and got away with it easy. But you didn't and that's up to you.

If i where in the same situation i wouldn't have fwcked her either. It goes against my morals and that goes against everything i believe. I think that fwcking drunk girls is the same as cheating in a game. Its wrong, but you can get away with it and no one will know. But you have to live with yourself.

You shouldn't feel like you where taking advantage of her though, making out and shyt is no big deal drunk or not. Besides, if she made out with you sober a while ago, then why feel bad about doing it when she's drunk? It's your call in the end if your gonna get into it or get over it.

 

[arcilitei34]

Well its not that we were just making out, we were naked just about, and there was some heavy breast/sucking/groping, and her rubbing my penis and me rubbing her pvssy, etc. The day before we didn't make out, we just shared a few kisses together. But the thing is, is I kinda want to talk to her about it, but a part of me just says don't talk to her for awhile.
Honestly, she was pissed drunk, i got some water into her system and some rest, and a few hours later she seemed pretty much sober to me, but she had a few freudian slips near the end which gave it away that she was still drunk.

 

[Supero Masculus]

Well, i would prescribe distance. And a whole lot of it. But that's only an opinion from someone you have never met. Do what you need to do to get what you want. If you wanna be in an LTR i would suggest distance or ignorance. If you wanna be fwck buddies, then i would say ignoring the problem altogether and act as though everything was normal. If you REALY want a steril conscience then talk to her. I would probably talk to her cause i have other options and if we only ended up as freinds then fien, whatever. But if you do talk to her i would suggest, act normal and if she cares, she WILL bring it up or hint at it. Odds are she wont and your just over analysing it.

 

[Patrick124]

If I'm ****faced and a drunk chick wants to fvck...is it still wrong in ur eyes?
Jw caus I know for me if I'm sober and shes drunk, its a def no go. But what abotu if I'm ****faced as welll..?
I'm kinda leanin towards it still being wrong...how about u?
Though this could be my opinion because..beer-goggles have tricked me pretty bad twice. least I only madeout with the uglies. lol

 

[TonyTheTigerOI]

Last night I layed a 8.6 whos got a bf of 10 months. When we met she was drunk... I just worked it out of her system. We flirted and I broke down her defense for 1.5 hrs, then we made out for .5 hrs, then we layed tgether [foreplay] for an an hr. Then we had sex - 3 hrs of prep make someone pretty much sober [unless theyve had 5+ drinks in the same hr you meet them].

Honestly... when ppl are tipsy their desires come out. They dont fabricate untill they cant see straight. So your girl was tipsy [if even, by the end of the night] and she wanted to ****. Your not taking advantage of anything... your giving her what she wants [she just needed a confidence boost to ask for it].

Dont make things weird with this girl, and they wont b.

 

[arcilitei34]

Oh another reason I wouldn't hit it either was because i didnt have any condoms.

 

[Supero Masculus]

oh... NOW you tell us.... gosh...

 

[arcilitei34]

Yeah it seem's like im Shiit outta luck.

We woke up the next morning and she seemed very aloof, it doesn't get anymore obvious than that, she probably felt this way because it may have seen like I have rejected her, i mean i turned down sex i might as well have just biitch slapped her. I sat beside her and put my arm around her and she leaned in and told me that she had a very bad hangover and it hurt to think. Then she left without saying goodbye. The following day I just completely avoided all contact with her. The next day I called her up to talk to her about it, to resolve it, I told her the honest truth about everything, how I didn't want to take advantage of her and such. She told me that she was interested in me but didn't have really much to base it on so it was basically a crush. So now i think im just going to just cut off all forms of communication for awhile, and just get on with my life and see what happens.

 

[wcknightjr]

What the hell?! You've got her! Ask her out on a simple date and start slow again, it'll happen

 

[arcilitei34]

She apparently is "not ready" for another relationship, because she came out of one recently. I know I can change her mind about this, but it may be a factor in why she's being so distant.

 

[wcknightjr]

Say to her "Hey, i coulda banged the life outta you that night if I wanted to, and now your not interested?! What the hell do you want woman?" Call her on her aloofness. Tell her how she's acting and she'll try to prove to you that this is isn't the case. This could have good results for you.

 

[Void]

success . if shes talking about horny things she wants to **** you.
good job.

 

[ToughGuy]

Success!!

Hey,
it is a success, if she wouldn't be wanting it so badly, she wouldn't be giving you that much chance to do so many things to her.

But you really done the excellent job by avoiding the sex.
No doubt she was frustrated to get the sex out of you.

All the guys must have the objective to get the women frustrated to get the sex out of them. Make them work hard to get the sex out of you.

by the way when she doesn't have any moral conflicts in getting fvck what is YOUR problem boy??

Enjoy the ride as many times as you get chance.

Yours
Tuffy