A Womans Reaction To This Site?

[Aaron B]

^ word

once you've got her hooked tho, it won't matter if she "finds out"

in the early stages, NEVER refer to the game. deny, deny, deny

 

[Atom Smasher]

There is no good whatsoever that can come from showing women this site or discussing what we discuss here with them. It will only come back to bite men collectively in the ass.

The idea that is is harmless to show them this site and to discuss our topics is extremely short-sighted.

Does a football coach reveal his playbook or his game plan to an opposing team? Would a chess player discuss his strategies with his opponent? Does a poker player visually tell his opponents his hand by his facial expressions, or does he spend his life controlling every possible tell? What about a field general? What would revealing his tactics do to his prospects of gaining what he is striving for?

How about the books we have all studied regarding power and influence? Do they advise you to reveal your sources of power, or to conceal them? What is the reasoning behind that? Does revelation of what is behind your value increase your value or decrease it? It decreases it, of course.

How on earth are we to make a societal shift if we carelessly and cavalierly reveal this stuff to women? "Hey, hon, come here and look at this and tell me what you think." This is the very weakness that got us into trouble in the first place. It represents a lack of looking at the big picture.

Play close to the vest, boys. Look at the big picture and RESPECT the efforts we are putting forth here in this community. Nothing whatsoever is gained by this casual attitude of revelation. The only thing that happens is that ground is lost that we are collectively working to gain back.

 

[floydb25]

It really is sad that it comes down to what you said, Atom. But, like a lot of other things - that's just the way it is. Dating really is a game of battle - the most accurate comparison being chess. Women (and men) aren't these innocent, genuine people you may want them to be. Just gotta accept it, and play the game.

You also learn a lot by watching the other player, and adapt your strategies accordingly... After you lose a few times.

 

[TopGun2000]

i was natural. my first gf (bpd) successfully made me into a complete afc. after many years, i found this site, now im golden. :rockon:

re: sosuave being about more than "getting laid"

i agree

hell lots of AFC's get laid. i always did. always had girlfriends too. but i was a horrible, horrible AFC

 

[Mike32ct]

If anyone still thinks that women want you to succeed with women (which they don't), I issue this challenge:

Tell a female friend you're struggling with the ladies and could use her help. Follow all her advice exactly. Be sure to report back on all the dates, lays, and relationships you got from following her advice lol. Also include a list of all her cute friends she fixed you up with LOL.

Bottom line...women are not on your side as you try to improve and come up as a man. As such, we shouldn't share our game plans with them.

(My advice is mostly for single guys. If you found a great wife or LTR who fully supports you in your endeavors, consider yourself blessed.)

 

[floydb25]

Ha... I had a girl who rejected me once, but wanted to keep me around as a back-up / doormat. I didn't realize this at the time.

She was very popular and attractive, and knew lots of girls. But she wouldn't set me up with ANY of them. Never even got to mingle with them. She never gave realistic advice, either... Told me to go date other girls - without ever helping - only to sabotage those intentions in a heart-beat. She didn't want to date me, but didn't want me dating anyone else, either. Nor did she want me to lose interest in her.

At the time, my naive self thought she was keeping me around for potential. Bzzt... Wrong... Error in the database... Password incorrect... Reboot... She wanted me as her little chump doormat. Never wanted to see me succeed with other girls. Never gave solid advice - just said "not interested; can't help; go date someone else".

I never received any kind of good advice or help from ANY females I knew. They just rejected me, tried bringing me down, asked why I never had a girlfriend, etc. Then tried sabotaging by any means necessary. That was the extent of it. Stupid and pointless.

A lot of girls have egos, too. They like feeling superior and desirable. Just because they don't like you - doesn't mean they want you to like anyone else. They get VERY competitive and insecure when that happens - while still not caring about YOU.

These girls also went absolutely ape**** once I told them to **** off, disowned them, and found my own success. All they did was bring me down in all aspects as it related to dating. They were no help whatsoever, and did much more harm than good. They didn't want to see me succeed.

 

[badboyjmm]

I never received any kind of good advice or help from ANY females I knew. They just rejected me, tried bringing me down, asked why I never had a girlfriend, etc. Then tried sabotaging by any means necessary. That was the extent of it. Stupid and pointless.

A lot of girls have egos, too. They like feeling superior and desirable. Just because they don't like you - doesn't mean they want you to like anyone else. They get VERY competitive and insecure when that happens - while still not caring about YOU.

These girls also went absolutely ape**** once I told them to **** off, disowned them, and found my own success. All they did was bring me down in all aspects as it related to dating. They were no help whatsoever, and did much more harm than good. They didn't want to see me succeed.

Yep man, the main problem is that those type of girls want their cakes and eat it too. So have you as the yes-man, the AFC chasing her, so that she's constantly validated. No girl likes to know that you are capable of having other opinions because her trump card (sex) is not valid. Heck, some of my friends love to talk about how they meet girls and get laid (they are pretty good at attracting girls) but when it's time to explain me something that I don't agree with, they start bragging and what not. They don't truly help, they keep you around so that you can do them favours...

So there's really no advantage of telling a girl that a site like this exist, they will usually start bragging about the fact that they don't need a site like this to be better with the opposite sex and that you are a fake character for using this site...

 

[floydb25]

Yes... They always want you to remain "nice" and "unattractive" - because it benefits them. That's why they always tell you to never change - as they're rejecting you. Ha.

 

[Halcyonique]

Japer - You don't gain any moral high ground by acting like a 12 year old who has just learned the ability to cuss. I have better things to do than waste my time with a little boy who can't hold his own without degenerating into a helpless mass of flailing goo.

You get your way: I don't think I'm better than everyone else; I do now believe I'm better than you, but from what you've shown yourself, that really doesn't take much. Keep jerkin'! I guess!

 

[Alex DeLarge]

Ha... I had a girl who rejected me once, but wanted to keep me around as a back-up / doormat. I didn't realize this at the time.

She was very popular and attractive, and knew lots of girls. But she wouldn't set me up with ANY of them. Never even got to mingle with them. She never gave realistic advice, either... Told me to go date other girls - without ever helping - only to sabotage those intentions in a heart-beat. She didn't want to date me, but didn't want me dating anyone else, either. Nor did she want me to lose interest in her.

At the time, my naive self thought she was keeping me around for potential. Bzzt... Wrong... Error in the database... Password incorrect... Reboot... She wanted me as her little chump doormat. Never wanted to see me succeed with other girls. Never gave solid advice - just said "not interested; can't help; go date someone else".

I never received any kind of good advice or help from ANY females I knew. They just rejected me, tried bringing me down, asked why I never had a girlfriend, etc. Then tried sabotaging by any means necessary. That was the extent of it. Stupid and pointless.

A lot of girls have egos, too. They like feeling superior and desirable. Just because they don't like you - doesn't mean they want you to like anyone else. They get VERY competitive and insecure when that happens - while still not caring about YOU.

These girls also went absolutely ape**** once I told them to **** off, disowned them, and found my own success. All they did was bring me down in all aspects as it related to dating. They were no help whatsoever, and did much more harm than good. They didn't want to see me succeed.

Fvcking hate these types! I was talking to an HB9 over the summer and she was one of these. We kissed and made out a few times, but she'd always have some last minute resistance toward further advances. When I finally got sick of her sh1t and moved on to other women, she'd do all she could to sabotage it.

I remember I entered an exclusive relationship with a girl back in the summer. One night I went over a friend's house to drink a beer and hangout, and the HB9 was there drunk trying to fvck me. So dumb. Eventually the girl noticed her coming on to me and broke up with me.. Since it was early in the relationship I really didn't have any swing with the argument and just had to deal with it.

Then a week later the HB9 calls me a creep for coming on to her, and starts dating one of my old friends from highschool. Even leaves a party I brought her to with the kid.

With all that said, she's clearly BPD and knowing this, I wouldn't even want to date her. Just sucks that the previous thing I had with that other girl got ruined over this one's own selfish desire. She'd even make sure to write on my FB wall whenever she a new girl be-friended me on there.

 

[JonJaper]

Japer - You don't gain any moral high ground by acting like a 12 year old who has just learned the ability to cuss. I have better things to do than waste my time with a little boy who can't hold his own without degenerating into a helpless mass of flailing goo.

You get your way: I don't think I'm better than everyone else; I do now believe I'm better than you, but from what you've shown yourself, that really doesn't take much. Keep jerkin'! I guess!

Strong ignoring of the relevant points in my last post LOL, says it all really. Good luck believing that a woman's perspective is useful haha btw.

I thought getting a woman's perspective might actually help it for better...

:crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup:

 

[Halcyonique]

Strong ignoring of the relevant points in my last post LOL, says it all really. Good luck believing that a woman's perspective is useful haha btw.


:crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup:

Do you not get that cussing out people who have taken the time to respond to you, is not going to automatically make anyone take your thoughts on board?

Why are so you incredibly defensive?
If you believe in what you say so much, then why can't you let THAT hold it's own?
I don't believe that you believe in what you say, because almost everything you say comes with a sh!tload of this bizarre, way overblown aggressive hysteria.

For the record, I have taken the time to look at previous posts of yours and it's clear that you are extremely sensitive and troubled. I'm here to help and gain input just as much as you and everybody else here, but the difference between you, myself, and the most others here is that you can't seem to respond without resorting to hysteria.

You've taken my opinion on certain things that you happen to hold dear, as though they are unforgivable sins. Not everybody on this forum is going to kiss Pooks a$$, nor are they all going to subscribe to the same opinions as you.

I posed a civil question (which many guys here - whether they've thought that getting a woman's opinion on this site was worthwhile or not - have actually been perfectly able to respond to like grown adults and offered their valuable input) whilst you discredit your own credibility by getting your d!ck in a complete twist, and start j!zzing out hysterical insults like a faulty water-sprinkler.

I'm just saying: You should probably look into that.

Bai now! And good luck!

 

[backbreaker]

If anyone still thinks that women want you to succeed with women (which they don't), I issue this challenge:

Tell a female friend you're struggling with the ladies and could use her help. Follow all her advice exactly. Be sure to report back on all the dates, lays, and relationships you got from following her advice lol. Also include a list of all her cute friends she fixed you up with LOL.

Bottom line...women are not on your side as you try to improve and come up as a man. As such, we shouldn't share our game plans with them.

(My advice is mostly for single guys. If you found a great wife or LTR who fully supports you in your endeavors, consider yourself blessed.)

hell you can be more direct than that

simply ask them to hook you up. if they come with any b S tell them that you keep telling me i'm a great guy to have around so i don't see the problem why you shouldn't be able to set me up on a date with one of your cute friends.

watch the hilarity ensue.

 

[Alex DeLarge]

Obviously a woman's reaction to this site is going to be terrible, seeing the amount of misogynistic BS a bunch of members spout over the few and far between actual great advice this board offers. But I'm not going to let that keep me from absorbing the great information this site still teaches us.

I think chicks would agree with a lot of the good information.. such as

-Be a man. Not a whiny crybaby little boy.
-Be confident.
-Don't be a "nice guy" be a genuine guy.
-Be comfortable with your sexuality, don't be hesitant to approach a beautiful lady, ask for her phone number or escalate sexually.
-Organize your life, figure it out.
-Take pride in yourself, take responsibility.
-Be outgoing and enjoy life.

A lot of dudes that come here are seeking some great philosophical solution to the female sex. How to seduce them all, how to make them all fall in love with you.. Well there's no answer and there never will be, because we are all different.

If you are just a confident man who greatly enjoys life and its pleasures, then you have no inhibitions, therefore you act sexually on a biological level.

Introduce yourself to girl>establish commonalities/build rapport>kino>kiss close/number close (or both)>Go on a few dates and sexually escalate>get laid.

Women want a fearless man who knows what he wants. They want someone brave to lead and protect them. They want someone to fvck their brains out!

 

[Halcyonique]

^ Awesome, awesome post Alex! Couldn't agree more!

 

[JonJaper]

For the record, I have taken the time to look at previous posts of yours and it's clear that you are extremely sensitive and troubled.

*facepalm*

I love how you are 100% sure you have me all figured out Dr. Phil. The arrogance is strong in this one. You've mistaken my attacking your arrogance as me defending my stance. I don't need to defend my views but I do feel a need to attack your arrogance. You can psychoanalyse my reasons for attacking arrogance too if you're bored enough.

But at least we can agree that a woman's opinion about sosuave should not affect us... because sosuave is much more than just getting women. And if, like me, you are here to learn, then read the posts of experienced people before dismissing them like some know-it-all. Nobody likes a know-it-all.

 

[Married Buried]

It's amazing how many women come here and are dumb enough to use the same user ID that they use everywhere else. And then when I google the user name to find their true identity, I am labelled a stalker.

Guess you should have used a better user id shouldn't you? And I'm sure it's my fault you didn't think of that beforehand.

http://www.stickk.com/members/commitment.php/cid/41696


Come here and start insulting everyone and this is the treatment you get.

halcyonique
Nicole Slowik
Location:
United States

Tell us more about this SEX industry you work in?

 

[Married Buried]

Denial, hysteria

That should get rid of her for good. I wouldn't have even noticed her unless she didn't get big balls and start insulting people in the Mature Man forum. And we are just supposed to take it? Screw that. Adios b!tch.

 

[Halcyonique]

It's amazing how many women come here and are dumb enough to use the same user ID that they use everywhere else. And then when I google the user name to find their true identity, I am labelled a stalker.

Guess you should have used a better user id shouldn't you? And I'm sure it's my fault you didn't think of that beforehand.

http://www.stickk.com/members/commitment.php/cid/41696


Come here and start insulting everyone and this is the treatment you get.



Tell us more about this SEX industry you work in?

I come to this forum, someone gets on my case for no apparent reason other than they don't like an opinion of mine, I called bs on them, soooooooooooooooooo..... you post what you hope is my real personal info?
Is this how you treat women in real life? I mean what the actual fvck are you thinking?

But it's amazing how you sir, Mr Sherlock Stalker, are high and mighty enough to think for a second that you have my correct identity, and have frantically taken to this forum to post it about. What do you actually hope to gain by doing this? That maybe someone might track me down and deal with me in some way? Back the fvck off, sit the fvck down, and have a rest.

You a matched a username up that matches with incorrect data about me, (my weight, lmfao), and decide to post it about. You shouldn't be here. If the mods care for their own rules, that is:
Harassment (you're trying to track my real identity with the intention of posting it here) is actually against the rules on this forum.

Do you think I'd like this to get to the point where you DO find out my real name and location? Again, you shouldn't be here.
And I'm afraid I shall politely decline your offer on giving you additional jerk-off material in informing you "more" about the sex industry. No. Desist.

 

[Atom Smasher]

The thread that wouldn't die...

Until now. Thread closed.