MatureDJ
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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
One area where there is a great deal of upside for the woman is in the bedroom. While this site takes care to avoid erotic subject matter, women with submissive husbands should understand that their pleasure absolutely comes first. For example, they can enjoy as much unreciprocated oral sex as they please. By no means do they have to go without intercourse. However, intercourse only comes on their terms, and only when they are assured that their own physical needs are being met.
piranha45 said:there's lots of quotable lol's, but this is great:
game.r said:I think "Everybody Loves Raymond" was inspired by that site.lol
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I'm married and I can't relate to any of that at all.piranha45 said:there's lots of quotable lol's, but this is great:
Could it be an indication that the modern marriage model is a completely unnatural contrivance? In aboriginal societies, men and women are mostly separated. What tribesman would be caught dead cleaning the hut, beating the clothes down at the river with the ladies, or grinding grain, over hanging with his buds?Aenigma said:Rest assured, that is how most marriages work.
puma183 said:That site is one stop away from Fetish Cukoldry. I don't mean everyday infidelity. I mean those husbands that you read about who enjoy being humiliated, submissive, and be made to watch while the wife does it with some other guy.
I think that site must appeal to that same demographic.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
I withdraw my early comment. This most be a joke from some woman. Like menarebetterthanwomen.comWomen have never gone wrong by overestimating how important sex is to their husbands. And by sex, I don't just mean the physical act of sex; I mean the psychological components of sex as well. While men love physical sex, they also desire a level of sexual energy in their relationships that is very often missing. While this is useful information for any woman, it is critical for those with submissive husbands. A submissive husband craves sexual energy (which you can feel free to read as sexual "attention") from his wife as much as or more than he craves physical sex. He can go without the physical sex for extended periods of time, but he needs the sexual energy to feel satisfied.
How exactly does the wife go about adding sexual energy to the relationship? For starters, she can be sexually playful throughout the day. She can be affectionate with the intent of arousing him by kissing on his neck, nibbling on his ears, and patting him on the bottom as the couple goes about their daily routine. It is particularly useful if as she does these things she is telling him what she expects from him. For example, instead of asking him to take out the trash, sneak up behind him, kiss on his ear and tell him to take out the trash in a soft, sexy whisper. He will absolutely love this!
Remember that this does not have to result in any more physical sex than the woman desires. However, the woman needs to be recognize that her husband's desire to have physical sex will be higher than ever. She should not make the mistake of ignoring this reality; she should overtly acknowledge it. As was said before but bears repeating, most submissive men are very happy to be denied release (within reason) if their wives make it clear that they are consciously exerting their control over their husbands. Wives can simply tell him that they like having him remain aroused as he's easier to control. They can tell him he hasn't yet earned sex yet. They can tell him whatever they want as long as they do not ignore his heightened arousal. Importantly, women should not let their own physical needs go unanswered. Just because the husband is denied physical release does not mean that the woman needs to be denied. The wife should receive all the sexual stimulation (e.g. oral sex) she likes with no expectation that the act will be reciprocated.
Most women would not want to forego intercourse altogether as it is an important and enjoyable component of their sex life. However, when women do have intercourse with their husbands, they should not necessarily concede to him his orgasm. They can have him pull out whenever they feel like it. Consider the benefits to you of keeping him on edge. It is no great secret that after sex men become very sleepy and disinterested in affection and communication. Men have a physiological response to orgasm that is in conflict with a woman's emotional requirements for cuddling and talking after sex. I promise that any man that is denied an orgasm will have no desire whatsoever to get quickly off to sleep after being intimate with his wife. In fact, he will probably open up and talk as never before. He will dote on his wife, playing with her hair, rubbing her back, and kissing her neck and shoulders. He will behave as if he is just getting to know her. It will be as if the old flames have been rekindled.
I don't know if menarebetterthanwomen.com is a joke or not, it sure seems like it but the guy has touched a nerve in both men and women and some of the stuff he mentioned is spot on.SXS said:This most be a joke from some woman. Like menarebetterthanwomen.com
Well, he tries to hit the nerve and he does, but nevertheless, its with a good dose of homour. I am saying its a good homour.I don't know if menarebetterthanwomen.com is a joke or not, it sure seems like it but the guy has touched a nerve in both men and women and some of the stuff he mentioned is spot on.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.