"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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A way to rate a woman's interest.

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The way she dresses to show up for a first date. This speaks VOLUMES. I have seen women who dress to "kill" for a night on the town, or to go 'clubbin and then, when they are out on the first date, dress like a librarian.

If a woman is generally intersted in the man, she will USUALLY dress to show off some skin on the all important first date. She wants to exploit that sexuality a bit, and show off the goods, and feel sexy. However, if she ISNT interested, and is dressing sexy, she is sending the wrong signals, to a man she doesnt want touching her. If she wears bland clothes to a date, it USUALLY means that she has no sexual interest in the man whatsoever.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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No offence, but this is BS.
 

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Originally posted by JackPrescott
If a woman is generally intersted in the man, she will USUALLY dress to show off some skin on the all important first date. If she wears bland clothes to a date, it USUALLY means that she has no sexual interest in the man whatsoever.
This can be true sometimes, but not as a rule. It depends where the woman you meet is at in her dating status (HB, recently broken up, dates alot). If she hasn't dated for awhile, she might not display her sex appeal, so she'll dress conservatively because she is uncomfortable in dating and having others view her sexually. Sometimes these women can be firecrackers once you release what's hidden inside.

On the other hand, some women dress to kill all the time, so this has nothing to do with how she feels about you.

I wouldn't use this approach to rate a woman's interest. Use EC, body language, response to your touch, etc., which are better indicators. If a woman shows some skin on the first date, I never feel guilty for subtlely looking at her in a sexual way at times during even a first date. What does she expect me to do, avoid the very areas that she wants everyone else to notice?
 

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This is hypothetical rubbish. The one and only way to be sure of a womans interest in you is her willingness to spend her money on you:D
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by SMOAK
This is hypothetical rubbish. The one and only way to be sure of a womans interest in you is her willingness to spend her money on you:D
SOO TRUE:)
 

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Originally posted by SMOAK
This is hypothetical rubbish.
I'd have to agree. By this line of reasoning, I'd have to assume that all of the girls I've gone out with on a date who wore jeans and a t-shirt/cami/etc top on our first date weren't ever attracted to me. Since I slept with many of them, this can't be the case... unless females generally have sex with people they aren't attracted to. I'd actually be more worried if a girl did come outside looking like she just got off work at a strip club... then again, I prefer class to trash.
 

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Originally posted by SuperGigaloDJ
I see what you're sayin' and you shouldn't be flamed for this.

If a girl dresses nice on the first date her interest may be good.

If a girl dresses in sloppy clothes on the first date she may have low interest. If she even dresses like this however may interest in her will go way down.


Just about every girl I've gone out with has dressed nice on the first date.
Hmm, interesting opinions. Basically, if a woman "dolls herself up a bit" and exposes a little skin, she is basically "on the hunt" for attention, if nothing else. If a woman really wants you, according to my theory, on the first date, she is going to dress to impress, sexually, little tops, a little leg, ect. If she has no interest, she is going to dress down, or really not care how she is dressed. For example, look at the way ladies dress on GNO. They do this for a reason.
 

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Hmmm...

Most of the girls I've banged on the first date recently showed up on our first 'date' wearing jeans and a plain shirt.

I'm thinking there are alot of variables that play into how they dress on a first date other than their interest... temperature outside, fashion trends, age, the girls' preference, how she perceives you, etc....

I do look at what they wear on the first date as an indicator weather or not they're interested.

Cheers!

Eric
 

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at least pay attention to the level of effort. a lot of girls look cute in tight booty jeans and a t-shirt. they can pull it off; and if youre not doing something FORMAL that requires high class dressing, then its cool. but if i picked up a chick for the first "date" and she had raggedy hair, sloppy makeup and worn out clothes, id look at her, turn around and walk away.

seriously.

some girls always wear provocative clothes, while others go for a more casual look. but with each girl, there WILL be a very visible difference between DRESSED UP and LOUNGING attire. if she is interested, she'll want you to see that sexy side of her.

personally, i like feminine women. girls who are soft to touch, smell sweet and look delicious. im happy to say that all girls ive dated have dressed up like little vixens for our first date.. and most others :cool:

-SLB
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Exactly. I went out recently on a date with a woman and she was dressed in "business casual" yet when she is out for a "night on the town" she is dressed sexy, and that told me her level of interest right off the bat.
 

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Originally posted by strong like bull
at least pay attention to the level of effort. a lot of girls look cute in tight booty jeans and a t-shirt. they can pull it off; and if youre not doing something FORMAL that requires high class dressing, then its cool. but if i picked up a chick for the first "date" and she had raggedy hair, sloppy makeup and worn out clothes, id look at her, turn around and walk away.
Perfectly said...
Originally posted by JackPrescott
Exactly. I went out recently on a date with a woman and she was dressed in "business casual" yet when she is out for a "night on the town" she is dressed sexy, and that told me her level of interest right off the bat.
She could go on every first date like that, though. A first date generally isn't going to be a "night out on the town", not with someone you've never gone out with before. You shouldn't let the way a person dresses (unless it's like strong like bull said) be your sole indicator of what a girl's IL is... otherwise you're bound to end up a frusterated chump.
 

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The only real way to tell these days is when her lips are firmly place over your coc...
 

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Sure, clothes communicate a way how the girl is. If she's dressing super nice that means she wants someone just as sophisticated as she is.

However, it's not an indication of interest.

Get that straight *****.
 

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dude, you sound like a mathmatcian trying to handicap a horserace, with all of his forumlas and equations...

How about this...


Talk to her and guage her interest?

What you sai dwas so thouthless and stupid I am going to give you a pass and just pretend that you didn't say it
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by strong like bull
at least pay attention to the level of effort. a lot of girls look cute in tight booty jeans and a t-shirt. they can pull it off; and if youre not doing something FORMAL that requires high class dressing, then its cool. but if i picked up a chick for the first "date" and she had raggedy hair, sloppy makeup and worn out clothes, id look at her, turn around and walk away.

seriously.

some girls always wear provocative clothes, while others go for a more casual look. but with each girl, there WILL be a very visible difference between DRESSED UP and LOUNGING attire. if she is interested, she'll want you to see that sexy side of her.

personally, i like feminine women. girls who are soft to touch, smell sweet and look delicious. im happy to say that all girls ive dated have dressed up like little vixens for our first date.. and most others :cool:

-SLB
YES! This is just better described meaning of the original tip, but I have to agree. The EFFORT counts, not the RESULT.
 

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Originally posted by diablo
I'd have to agree. By this line of reasoning, I'd have to assume that all of the girls I've gone out with on a date who wore jeans and a t-shirt/cami/etc top on our first date weren't ever attracted to me. Since I slept with many of them, this can't be the case... unless females generally have sex with people they aren't attracted to. I'd actually be more worried if a girl did come outside looking like she just got off work at a strip club... then again, I prefer class to trash.
Exactly right Diablo, and what most fe-males dont get is that casual dress may indicate her comfort level with a man ;) The more comfortable she is the more likely she is to get naked ;) Some girls just dress up on dates because they like all the extra attention they get-->ever have a hotass girl flirt with you when she was all dressed to the nines and out with some clown? :crackup: A man should have the balls tell the woman to wear something sexy for him if thats what he wants :D Silent demands and expectations are for fe-males and women ;)
 

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Have you guys ever thought about the fact that the girl doesnt WANT to try dress extra "sexy" or wateva on the 1st date because she doesnt KNOW if she will like you or not, so she plays "safe" by not wearing something too attractive. Its the ability to MAKE her like you while ON the 1st date that gets them to sleep with you. If you notice, they will only start wearing "sexy" things to the dates to FOLLOW, if they like you that is, because now they are SURE that they like u/are attracted to you.

gotta go, i'll post something longer ;ater.


Laterz...
 

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This theory does not apply to (attention Wh0res) AWs. AWs will dress up to the hilt regardless of whether they like you or not. And I agree with Diablo's assessment that a girl dressing down may also indicate her comfort level with you as opposed to dis-interest.

On the other hand I have noticed that if a girl's dressing pattern has suddenly changed for the better after meeting you, this is a good indicator that she is interested in your attention and no one elses.

But, like anything else, you have to weigh other factors and not just one in determining a woman's IL.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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