"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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A SURE thing and no IOI's at all!

The_Crack

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I for a fact know that this chick thinks i'm hot as f.ck. She hasn't told me so herself, but she has told a few friends that.
Anyways, i was texting her and made her come over for a "movie".. and honestly, any girl coming over to watch a movie is going to really get sex.

So she comes over and we're chatting in my bed, light bit of kino here and there from me. But i am getting absolutely NO ioi's whatsoever! Her body language is extremely closed, she is constantly on her phone texting or facebooking. Doesn't make much eye contact, keeps moving away from me. I was like wtf?

had her in bed for close to an hour or so watching this movie and i was getting absolutely nothing. Every time i turn the conversation sexual, she would shut it down.. it was very frustrating!

Once the movie was over, i was just like **** it and went from light kino straight to hard kino. Stroking her leg, rubbing my body against her and STILL SHE IS ON HER PHONE!! seriously.. i've pretty much got my arm around her and my face is rubbing her, my other is stroking her and she is not even looking at me.. QUESTION MARKS QUESTION MARKS! LOL! I wasnt getting anything and i was like i might as well get rejected rather then not do anything and just go in for the kiss and i kid you not its like a switch got turned on. BAM she is force kissing me like crazy and is all over me! i was kind of taken aback and slow down haha and then again BAM like a switch is turned off, she stops and says she has to go. Seriously.. my balls! I kiss her again and AGAIN she is going aggressive on the kiss and then again she stops and says she has to go. I was just like **** it and let her go.
She said "she'll text me" as she left but i doubt that..
I don't think i'll be seeing her again cause i wasn't really a fan of her personality either, bit to crude around the edges.

But it just feels like such a waste cause it was SUCH a sure thing.. i don't know what happened here. Maybe someone could shed some light on this?

ps. maybe it was my fault? i didn't escalate fast enough? But usually i amp up the escalation depending on how she reacts and i was getting nothing. No reciprocation WHATSOEVER. In the end i had to jump from 10% escalation to a 100% rather then gradual increase..
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Don't rely on IOI's.

This case is the only Indicator of interest (or heavy lack thereof) that you need. She's just not that into you. Judge nismo sees beyond a reasonable doubt;

Your princess has been in another castle!

BTW, nothing in life is etched in stone. I don't even know if New Orleans will still be there after this hurricane.

Case closed. Bummer. :(
 

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i don't know dude, when i kissed her it was like a switch was turned on and she was ALL OVER me, then off in an instant and then the same thing again!

not really my princess, and couldn't give a **** if shes in another castle but i just found it so weird haha

But i guess should never rely on IOI's aye. Maybe she was just real shy?

for some reason i feel that was my last shot with her, i won't be able to go balls deep in her again i fear.. aw well
 

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BAM she is force kissing me like crazy and is all over me! i was kind of taken aback and slow down haha
Why did you slow down? If she's "force kissing" you keep going.

Also, there's no "sure thing". The moment you start thinking to yourself you got it in the bag is the moment you lose it. Big mystery, but never assume it's a done teal until penis slips in vagina.

This is the end, everything else is just a means.

Next time if you're hanging out with a girl and she's on her phone and not paying attention to you, call her out on it. I told girls to leave in the past if they were on their phone too much and they would put it away and start paying attention to me. It's a sh!t test of sorts sometimes.
 

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I'm just gonna come right out and say it...

You did not do ANYTHING wrong. I can't see how anything you did or did not do would cause her to act in such a bizarre way... You know what I mean?

I see people falling into this trap here all the time... trying to logically explain every thing a woman does, no matter how strange her behavior is. Some things just need to be written down (because you'll have a good laugh when you read it five or ten years from now), but the likelihood of ever finding yourself in this situation with another woman acting this way is highly unlikely.

The Gambler
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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These biznitches never cease to amaze!
 

The_Crack

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muscleman said:
Why did you slow down? If she's "force kissing" you keep going.

Also, there's no "sure thing". The moment you start thinking to yourself you got it in the bag is the moment you lose it. Big mystery, but never assume it's a done teal until penis slips in vagina.

This is the end, everything else is just a means.

Next time if you're hanging out with a girl and she's on her phone and not paying attention to you, call her out on it. I told girls to leave in the past if they were on their phone too much and they would put it away and start paying attention to me. It's a sh!t test of sorts sometimes.
yeah man i think i'll have to do that next time. It was kinda disrespectful i felt when i was right next to her but she chose to be on her phone. Really irritating and even a little infuriating. or maybe she was just REALLY nervous? she seemed confident enough :/


The Gambler said:
I'm just gonna come right out and say it...

You did not do ANYTHING wrong. I can't see how anything you did or did not do would cause her to act in such a bizarre way... You know what I mean?

I see people falling into this trap here all the time... trying to logically explain every thing a woman does, no matter how strange her behavior is. Some things just need to be written down (because you'll have a good laugh when you read it five or ten years from now), but the likelihood of ever finding yourself in this situation with another woman acting this way is highly unlikely.

The Gambler
I think this is a very possible explanation man. I know exactly what you mean haha!

i guess logical explanation can't always be achieved eh. Can't really explain how Impulse works i guess. Hopeully i never find myself in this posistion again.. didn't enjoy it! i've been in the position before where i've had girls over in my bed for a movie who i have gotten it on with, but never someone like this who gave me nada
 

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sounds like shes using you to keep herself occupied, what ever path you chose dont go out of your way for this girl

your gonna do what you wanna do but you heard our POV so good luck
 

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I think she's seeing another guy and wasn't sure if she should fvck you.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The_Crack said:
yeah man i think i'll have to do that next time. It was kinda disrespectful i felt when i was right next to her but she chose to be on her phone. Really irritating and even a little infuriating. or maybe she was just REALLY nervous? she seemed confident enough :/
That's so obviously disrespectful I'm almost certain it was a result of nervousness. You just don't do it otherwise. Plus if you said you've heard she thinks you're hot from her friends and then clams up when she's in front of you, this just confirms to me it's a case of nerves. (Had it happen to me more than once.)

As for her reacting to your kiss but not reacting much to anything else, I'd guess it's probably a case of what she believes is proper/appropriate for a guy to do if he really likes you, ie she believes if a guy likes her he will kiss her. Whether that's "right" or "wrong" on her part is beside the point; if she believes she will act on it. That's why when you backed off she probably took it as a sign that you don't really like her. Then her nerves took over and she decided to eject rather than be "humiliated" (the way she sees it).

It can sure be frustrating sometimes when two people have very divergent views on what's appropriate. For example, next time you could find yourself in a situation in which you decide to "all in" and the girl freaks out because it's "too much." Thankfully, though, most people seem to occupy a "middle ground" of what is normal, so for the most part things work roughly according to plan.
 

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There are women who get super nervous and seem very distant.

You didn't take coming over and lying in your bed as an IOI? haha
 

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Dante1a said:
There are women who get super nervous and seem very distant.

You didn't take coming over and lying in your bed as an IOI? haha
guess i didn't haha i was actually thinking she must've got real nervous, but she didn't seem it! She was real confident in speech and real loud as well..
 
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