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Ran across this article..See what you guys think

So your out at a club and you meet some hb. Your tall, dark and handsome looking good and confident and women take notice. Your lookin for your victim and you find her. You both make great eye contact, some kino, flirting.......all the signals are there, that she's digging you, and your confident that she wants you

You approach and you get some pretty good convo going despite the loud music. You go for the # and she doesnt hesitate to give it to you. You wait 4-5 days to call her and set up something for the weekend

what are the chances in this situation that this is her right #? Yeah, you might get her answering machine and she may return your call in a proper time frame. If she's into you and you feel it....your pretty confident that she'll return or answer your first call or so

I know that women are that shallow and are looking for a man in they're league if not better. If your outta her league, sure she's gonna be nice and talk to you. She may give you her actual # and avoid your calls because your outta her league. More than likely, she'll give you the wrong # just so you'll leave her alone. You'll just be stroking her ego

Maybe its just me, but i do believe women want a man in they're league, if not better. They wont settle anything for less. If your in her league, more than likely it'll be the right # and she'll respond in a positive manner. If your not in her league.......you can be persistant but you'll end up hurting yourself because she wont respond
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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dude, woman don't want someone from their visual league. they want to be prettier than their man.
 

SealTeamSix

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Same league? I beg the differ .. Want proof?
Go out side and see couples .. some are good looking couples and some are not .. but most of times I see HB with avg. looking guys ...
 

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I somewhat agree because women are always looking for the BBD! If she's hot and she's with a so so looking guy blah blah blah. He's actually temporary until the BBD comes along and snags her. So yeah you'll see good looking couples and not good looking couples but those not good looking couples can change fairly quickly if the BBD plays his cards right and sweeps her off her feet. BBD= big better deal meaning a man in her league being his status - looks, money, personality, independence, confidence etc....... Not all have to apply because there will be flaws. If the BBD has most if not all the neccessary traits down, he considered the "catch in a half"
 

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Can't remember where I read this... might have been the boot camp document...

This is how you know most of the time whether she's giving you a fake number or not.

Girl:My number is 555-5591.
You: Ok, so its 555-5519?
Girl:Yes/No --->Generally this can tell you if she's lying. If she tells you thats her number she obviously gave you a false one. If she corrects you then it should be real.

Whether she calls you back or not is another deal.
 

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Girls like cute/handsome guys but not prettier than them. Which answers why.. "Why is that average/ugly guy going with that hot girl!" Obviously it is NOT MONEY...Obviously it is NOT STATUS..it is how he makes her feel about herself. That which can only be achieved by actions and communication.
 

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Originally posted by KiInCollege
Remember, never leave a text or voice message. Just call back later.
Why is this? Calling back to many times makes you look clingy. If you leave a message telling her to call you when she gets the message, if she is into you chances are she will return the call.
 

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You're gonna have to trust me on that one.

Calling once or twice a day will not make you appear clingy. If you don't get her after a call or two, just wait for the next day.

I have had a girl admit to me that even though she liked a guy, she did not return his message. It's one of their rules if they're a rules girl, too.

So again, just wait until the next day to call again if you think you'll appear clingy. And no more than 3 unanswered calls a day or so.
 

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Originally posted by KiInCollege
You're gonna have to trust me on that one.

Calling once or twice a day will not make you appear clingy. If you don't get her after a call or two, just wait for the next day.

I have had a girl admit to me that even though she liked a guy, she did not return his message. It's one of their rules if they're a rules girl, too.

So again, just wait until the next day to call again if you think you'll appear clingy. And no more than 3 unanswered calls a day or so.
I've had several girls return my messages. I guess we have had different experiences... Maybe i'll start not leaving messages and see the response I get, however, cell phones have caller id's so they will know when you call.
 

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From my exp., You only need to call her once. That is it. No need to keep calling her trying to get her on the phone. That's a sign of desperation. You call her once and you get vm - you say "hey its ____ give me a call, my number is ____" That's all you need to say. This has never failed me.
 

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I hear where you're coming from. For very interested girls, they will call back.

But, for rules girls or lukewarm women that aren't yet convinced of you, putting the ball in their court by leaving a message will not get you a return call. Also, if they don't call back, you also can't call again, since you've already left a message.

I'm know for sure that some girls I dated would not have returned a message I left. I talked to them over the phone for the 5-10 minutes and set the date while subtly showing that I was a decent guy (maybe I didn't convince her yet when I approached and got the number).

Leaving a message is just an unnecessary risk and you become passive, waiting for that return call. Being passive is not who I am :)
 

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Well i met this hb at the club friday night and it was cool. All the signs of interest from her end were there like leaving her arm against mine, almost leaning on me, strong eyecontact etc.. I met her there through a friend. She didnt hesitate to give me her #, which she did on my cell phone. She says it was nice to meet you, as she placed her hand on my chest. All the signs of interest were there. Im a good looking guy, tall dark handsome and lean muscle mass, chisled jaw line etc..

I was wondering if this was her right #? Next night i was out pulling more #'s

Tonite i called the chic from friday night and of course i was going to get her voicemail. It was her number, with her voice and name, so it wasnt fake. I left a message with my name and said to call me back, and i left my number. I dont think it's a bad thing. If she's interested, she'll return my call. If she doesnt, oh well!

If she does return my call, i'll keep the convo to no more than 5 minutes and seal it with a date for saturday night. Ill keep the convo for then.

I dont understand why i cant call her again, if she doesnt return my call? If she doesnt and i do decide to call her again, it wont be till maybe 3-4 days later
 
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