"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A Simple Debate

young pat

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Being home for school over the Easter weekend has got me back together with some good friends of mine, many of them are very good with women. Women are always the topic of conversation when we get back together.

The one debate a bunch of us were split over this time involved your buddies and your ex. Is is EVER to date a friends ex? I'm from the camp that is hell bent against it, as she was a friends at one point and there are plenty of other fish in the sea to need to do that.


I have other friends who say that after some arbitrary time (we were not talking years here) it's more then within their right to date an ex of a friend. Again I don't see the need in this as I'm sure that if your friend didn't find her to be gf material I'm sure that you will not either.


Mind you I had an ex attempt to get back at me by hooking up with a friend of mine, and it failed miserably as I did not give a ****. She tried some over the top PDA around me, then I openly advised him on how to get her off in the middle of the party he brought her to (she was a friend of nobody other then him).

This only made her look like a slut after the rest of the party inquired about the back story. In the end I got a good laugh so did the rest of my friends, but the one who was with my ex, he got angry for having a laugh at his 'dates' expense.

I liked the guy, but I did lose a bit of respect for him as he didn't see this as a rebound and an attempt to get back at me all in one. To this day I have yet to date a woman who isn't compatible with me that is compatible with my good friends, and I lose some respect for any man who knowingly dates his friends ex's as I'm sure there are other motives on her part, and he's only aiding her attempt to harm him in some way.


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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Scars

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It's unwritten law. I have a few friends I would have their back before anything. However, I still have my "party friends" that have fvcked me over quite a few times. I've lost a lot of respect for them, but I'm still not a dirty player. I have too much respect for that. But if I don't know the guy, I have no shame in swooping up on some chumps girl.
 

SandHawk

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I'm against dating exes from friends. It usually tears up the group of good friends over some skank while there are so many fish out there. I would never date (or as the person above), f*ck a girl who has been with a buddy.
 

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After the friend's completely over her I think its fine but while things are still raw, I wouldn't bother.
If the guy isn't a friend I ave no problems with getting on his girl / his ex / whoever.
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If my friends want my leftovers, fine. Do I want theirs? No.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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