DonGorgon
Master Don Juan
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Being fake works with all but the good women which is what I want now.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Ultimate Player said:why not? are u gonna be the smooth player who gets good pvssy by all means necessary, or are you gonna be the "proper" guy who barely ever gets any??
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Yes!!Dongfu said:Sorry guys, but there is something inherently wrong with this post. I dont think I need to really spell it out. Some of the more mature guys around here will understand what I mean, and is the likely reason why they haven't posted in this thread.
The chameleon analogy is correct, but it's not about pretending to be something you are not, so you can trick girls into sleeping with you. It is about attaining as many skills, qualities and knowledge as you can, so when you make a transformation to fit a girl, it's still authentically you.
This is a great post for guys who are just out of high school, or still have that mind set. In time you may develop a different understanding. But for now, I hope you guys get all the pvssy you deserve.
Something tells me you're AFC Savior/skiptomylou.Ultimate Player said:why not? are u gonna be the smooth player who gets good pvssy by all means necessary, or are you gonna be the "proper" guy who barely ever gets any??
You're right, and I will add something to this thread.Dongfu said:Sorry guys, but there is something inherently wrong with this post. I dont think I need to really spell it out. Some of the more mature guys around here will understand what I mean, and is the likely reason why they haven't posted in this thread.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Ultimate Player said:nope, im not suggesting to be FLAT OUT FAKE
im suggesting to work on yourself and your inner game, so that u could get to the point that u instantly establish a connection with all kinds of different women, and when i say different women, I mean for example:
1)preppy girls (we know they are hot)
2)ghetto girls (theyre hot too dont deny it!)
3) punk type of girls (somethin about them is appealing too, once again, dont deny it!!)
4) foreign girls, like asian girls or spanish or brazilian or russian ect ect
so whats my point? you have to develop all of your social skills as much as you can, through EXPERIENCE.......go to a club 100 times, listen to ALL kinds of music, go to every party you can, talk to as many people as you can and take everything in and learn learn learn LEARN
you want to get to a point where you have a date on a sunday afternoon with a ghetto chick, and you can connect with her talking about hip hop, be dressed like a fly mofo, be all ****y and tough and fun, be a sexual freak who turns her on, **** her, drop her off and then.......
2nd date, sunday evening, u see a smart sweet brazilian girl........go salsa dancing with her, talk to her about hot brazilian techno, point out to her that u value whatever she values, CONNECT with HER AS WELL, and **** her too
the above is an example of what im talking about when i say BE A CHAMELION WHO CAN ADAPT TO ALL KINDS OF WOMEN
Instead of "chameleon" a better word to use is "versatile"Ultimate Player said:nope, im not suggesting to be FLAT OUT FAKE
im suggesting to work on yourself and your inner game, so that u could get to the point that u instantly establish a connection with all kinds of different women, and when i say different women, I mean for example:
1)preppy girls (we know they are hot)
2)ghetto girls (theyre hot too dont deny it!)
3) punk type of girls (somethin about them is appealing too, once again, dont deny it!!)
4) foreign girls, like asian girls or spanish or brazilian or russian ect ect
make sure to check back on this thread, i explained what i meant right aboveSomeone Much cooler said:fvck all that being what she wants me to be. If she doesn't change into what i think an ideal woman should be then why should i change @ her whim? Fvck what girls think they want, i do me!
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
DonGorgon said:women will change for you ... only when they love you.
Yet if you're not her type then there is a good chance that she will not be your type either. Why would you want a woman who you didn't like?ChrizZ said:If she says that you are not her type = rejection
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.