A relationship it's a rental agreement

[Pumax]

It's gonna be long.

Relationships with women are like rental contracts, they have an expiration date and may or may not be renewed under certain conditions.
There’s nothing stopping you from taking a married or committed woman and making her yours, and nothing stopping women from switching their man for another, though rational and principled people won’t do this.

Women, especially in today’s world, are like tenants looking for a new place to rent. They make sure these places meet certain requirements. Beyond the random, uncontrollable factor of physical attraction or chemistry, they evaluate finances, status, and presence. They make plans with you, and we all know the cycle: get serious, live together, have a child, prepare the nest, merge finances, buy a bigger house and car, get married, travel, ask for a second child, build the happy family image online, travel again, get bored, argue, ask for therapy, then divorce.
(Between therapy and divorce comes monkey branching, because women rarely leave a “house” without securing another).


If men saw women in relationships as temporary rental contracts with an end date and clear terms, the world would be happier and we’d be treated better. When a woman behaves badly, her contract is either near its end or the terms have been broken. Knowing relationships are temporary allows men to take more risks and make decisions without fear.
It happens often that I meet taken or married women who are indirectly interested, but bound by their current contract. Women never stop checking if there’s a better deal. When contracts end, they say “the love was gone” or “we were better as friends,” not “I slept with another man and he gave me ten orgasms” or “he offers a better life with less work/effort from me”


What opened my eyes was hearing older men/women, who seemed to have big, united families, explain how their marriages were 50 years of arguments, how their wives speaks about how they knew about other women, like those men were cheating with multiple lovers, but those women stayed “for the family.” These women didn’t truly love or respect their husbands. Families like that grow in drama, not respect. 50 years of drama and arguing.


That’s why I believe in contracts with expiration dates, never cheating, but accepting that one day the story will end. I’ve had many chances to cheat but I only did once, and learnt.
When I tell women I won't fk them, they thought it was about looks, but it was about values, virtue, and reason.
I might joke with them, but make it clear I won’t cross that line while committed, or if they are.

 

[Manure Spherian]

today’s world

Try the past 60 years.

What opened my eyes was hearing older men/women,

What opened my eyes was, at 13 years old, noticing many females always had “bf’s” but never the same ones. Females have a stream of males from that age until they die in many cases. There are more female “players” than there are male ones.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi ManureSpherian,
"... There are more female “players” than there are male ones."
that's not my experience.Most Women are loyal but those who stray rarely do it just the once...Men,in general have far larger body counts,but often they are just playing musical chairs with the same cohort of Ladies...As the song says,"Like a silver dollar goes from hand to hand a Woman goes from Man to Man.

 

[Pumax]

but never the same ones

Do you mean they changed it often? That their relationships didn't last long? Or that they always had someone available and ready?

And what was your perspective on men?

 

[Gamisch]

Hi ManureSpherian,
"... There are more female “players” than there are male ones."
that's not my experience.Most Women are loyal but those who stray rarely do it just the once...Men,in general have far larger body counts,but often they are just playing musical chairs with the same cohort of Ladies...As the song says,"Like a silver dollar goes from hand to hand a Woman goes from Man to Man.

Gotta disagree that men have more bodies.

A 16 y.o woman can EASILY outnumber a man's lifetime bodycount in one / three year(s)

 

[Gamisch]

It's gonna be long.

Relationships with women are like rental contracts, they have an expiration date and may or may not be renewed under certain conditions.
There’s nothing stopping you from taking a married or committed woman and making her yours, and nothing stopping women from switching their man for another, though rational and principled people won’t do this.

Women, especially in today’s world, are like tenants looking for a new place to rent. They make sure these places meet certain requirements. Beyond the random, uncontrollable factor of physical attraction or chemistry, they evaluate finances, status, and presence. They make plans with you, and we all know the cycle: get serious, live together, have a child, prepare the nest, merge finances, buy a bigger house and car, get married, travel, ask for a second child, build the happy family image online, travel again, get bored, argue, ask for therapy, then divorce.
(Between therapy and divorce comes monkey branching, because women rarely leave a “house” without securing another).


If men saw women in relationships as temporary rental contracts with an end date and clear terms, the world would be happier and we’d be treated better. When a woman behaves badly, her contract is either near its end or the terms have been broken. Knowing relationships are temporary allows men to take more risks and make decisions without fear.
It happens often that I meet taken or married women who are indirectly interested, but bound by their current contract. Women never stop checking if there’s a better deal. When contracts end, they say “the love was gone” or “we were better as friends,” not “I slept with another man and he gave me ten orgasms” or “he offers a better life with less work/effort from me”


What opened my eyes was hearing older men/women, who seemed to have big, united families, explain how their marriages were 50 years of arguments, how their wives speaks about how they knew about other women, like those men were cheating with multiple lovers, but those women stayed “for the family.” These women didn’t truly love or respect their husbands. Families like that grow in drama, not respect. 50 years of drama and arguing.


That’s why I believe in contracts with expiration dates, never cheating, but accepting that one day the story will end. I’ve had many chances to cheat but I only did once, and learnt.
When I tell women I won't fk them, they thought it was about looks, but it was about values, virtue, and reason.
I might joke with them, but make it clear I won’t cross that line while committed, or if they are.

Good post.

Again, all I disagree with is the notion that it's just the man who cheats. Modern dating = women will cheat especially if you are not "that guy" and your not actively working on becoming and maintaining that status.

Other then that I agree. I mentioned many times before that unfortunately most men I know tend to take the path of least resistance meaning they forget all the little game they ever studied soon as they get (the opportunity to) some p000sy.

A rental can often be better than buying and owning..as long as the conditions are good. That's another one: don't try to own it( marriage) as I may change the dynamics and become a disadvantage rather then a " guarantee ".

 

[Manure Spherian]

Men,in general have far larger body counts,but often they are just playing musical chairs with the same cohort of Ladies

A few select men do. Ordinary men do not.

 

[Manure Spherian]

"Like a silver dollar goes from hand to hand a Woman goes from Man to Man.

This shows the polygynous nature of women, which is expressed differently than a man’s. The sexual Utopia of a man is a situation in which he has a stable of women he can screw whenever.

The female’s is to have some special man. She is “monogamous” with him… until she “gets bored” or some dumb dramatics happen. Then it’s off to the next. And the next. And the next. And….

The average man cannot do the former. The average woman often does the latter. Hence “I’ve never been single since 13”.

Fookin’ lol at RP madman telling men their peaks will be 35 to 50, when they needed to get this area of life squared up long ago.

Do you mean they changed it often? That their relationships didn't last long? Or that they always had someone available and ready?

Going from bf to bf to bf.

And what was your perspective on men?

I was raised lower middle class in the 90s. So my experience is biased. Dirtbags ruled.

 

[Pumax]

don't try to own it

Good point.
Nice that you pointed out what I mean: usually it's the woman that change dynamics. Not the man.

Utopia of a man is a situation in which he has a stable of women he can screw whenever.

Not mine. I would prefer 2 of them with very close connection rather 10x

Dirtbags ruled

This just tell us those women actually didn't men a mature men.

Going from bf to bf to bf.

And those bf are actually from the same circle?

 

[Divorced w 3]

Gotta disagree that men have more bodies.

A 16 y.o woman can EASILY outnumber a man's lifetime bodycount in one / three year(s)

Especially these days, with online apps it’s never been more true.

that poses a big question for the dogmatists out there - can you swallow your pride and accept a handful of short term flings in her past if there is a bunch of other stuff that works out great in the situation?

Also of note, very rarely does one find out the body count first , it’s usually well after the attraction that one uncovers these things

 

[plumber]

Gotta disagree that men have more bodies.

A 16 y.o woman can EASILY outnumber a man's lifetime bodycount in one / three year(s)

some men have far more. most men have less. some men have none.

 

[Manure Spherian]

And those bf are actually from the same circle?

In many cases they were! Hence the males didn’t have to “approach” women.

 

[BaronOfHair]

It's gonna be long.

Relationships with women are like rental contracts, they have an expiration date and may or may not be renewed under certain conditions

They're no different than almost everything else in life, in other words

 

[Scaramouche]

Gotta disagree that men have more bodies.

A 16 y.o woman can EASILY outnumber a man's lifetime bodycount in one / three year(s)

Hi Gamish,
Well with some,you are soo right....As an example in my misty recollections of a misspent youth I remember One Likely Lass about 16,after a one glorious victory,she took on most of our Schools Rugby Union Team of 15 Players.She managed to make it in one afternoon!

 

[SW15]

Christie Brinkley thinks modern marriages should function as 5 year contracts, like rental agreements.

Christie Brinkley admits forever might be too long for modern marriage

Christie Brinkley shared her new idea for marriage, suggesting couples renew their vows every five years, rather than sign up for a lifelong commitment right off the bat.

www.foxnews.com

Brinkley is 71 years old with 4 divorces. The primary reason that she got married so many times was her worldview being a child of the Baby Boom 1950s. Marriage was a thing that Boomers did because they were raised with that model.

The Millennial generation (1981-1996 births) doesn't believe in that model as much. Many Millennials had divorced Boomer parents with those divorces happening from the 1980s-2000s. Multiple marriages will not be as common in the Millennial generation as they age. Millennials delayed their first marriages and many Millennials right now are around age 40 without ever being married.

Relationships with women are like rental contracts, they have an expiration date and may or may not be renewed under certain conditions.
There’s nothing stopping you from taking a married or committed woman and making her yours, and nothing stopping women from switching their man for another, though rational and principled people won’t do this.

Women, especially in today’s world, are like tenants looking for a new place to rent. They make sure these places meet certain requirements. Beyond the random, uncontrollable factor of physical attraction or chemistry, they evaluate finances, status, and presence. They make plans with you, and we all know the cycle: get serious, live together, have a child, prepare the nest, merge finances, buy a bigger house and car, get married, travel, ask for a second child, build the happy family image online, travel again, get bored, argue, ask for therapy, then divorce.
(Between therapy and divorce comes monkey branching, because women rarely leave a “house” without securing another).

If men saw women in relationships as temporary rental contracts with an end date and clear terms, the world would be happier and we’d be treated better. When a woman behaves badly, her contract is either near its end or the terms have been broken. Knowing relationships are temporary allows men to take more risks and make decisions without fear.

This model is a good individual model and more reflective of reality. I think this is a part of why Millennials have not been getting married as much in the developed world and why Gen Z is likely to follow their path to some degree.

Viewing relationships as short to medium term contracts is more reflective of reality.

People with this view are less likely to have children because they realize that they'll end up co-parenting with some ex. That's not a good place to be.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Permanent monogamy has never been natural to the species. That's why there are contracts and vows in the first place.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Permanent monogamy has never been natural to the species.

Correct. Even for men who practice (such as myself) or are forced into monogamy, the mind is wired for sexual variety. Same goes for women.

 

[Manure Spherian]

There’s nothing stopping you from taking a married or committed woman and making her yours

Primarily because there are now no consequences as there were in the past, including deadly ones.

nothing stopping women from switching their man for another, though rational and principled people won’t do this.

I believe most girlfriends are meant to be stolen. Wives or women cohabitating with men and children should not.

Nearly all women are “gf’s”. So to get them, men have to steal them.

 

[BadBoy89]

how their wives speaks about how they knew about other women, like those men were cheating with multiple lovers, but those women stayed “for the family.” These women didn’t truly love or respect their husbands. Families like that grow in drama, not respect. 50 years of drama and arguing.

I don’t believe that for a second.

Wives don’t stay “for the “family”, they stay because they knew they can’t get something better, it’s their nature when they stay, not their moral compass. Yet, they say that because it’s makes them look good. This isn’t 1950s, this is 2025.

Women don’t reward loyalty. If they know their husband can cheat or even does cheat, they treat him better than a man completely in love who does give off the threat of cheating,

If a man wants a woman to treat him better, there has to be the implicit threat of cheating on his side at anytime; without him paying for it.

 

[Sega Genesis]

Christie Brinkley thinks modern marriages should function as 5 year contracts, like rental agreements.

^^This is interesting! Isn't this your belief too @SW15 ? That relationships have a shelf life (a good shelf) of approximately 5 years?

From the article you linked:

"You could get married, like, ‘We’ll see if you want to renew it in five years,’" Brinkley said. "Every five years, go, ‘Do you want to renew?’ That way, if you’re getting bored or whatever, you can get out of it without all the lawyers and all that stuff."

This is actually NOT a bad idea (for both) although why then get married?

Live together and commit from your hearts for as long as you want and as long as it's working for both. And let me add, if it's not working for one, then it's not working for both.

If there are kids, it's better for them too as living in a home where there is no or very little love between their parents can do a HEAP of damage emotionally and I speak from experience saying that (my parents' marriage).

Checking in with each other periodically with "hey, ya wanna keep doing this? You happy? Am I happy"? is honest!

And sparks an open and forthright discussion about where things might be improved and/or awaken a relationship that's become mundane and complacent.

If not you mutually call it a day...

From my observation, so many people (and I use to be one of them) are 'avoiders' and 'pretenders' when it comes to their relationships refusing to acknowledge and openly discuss serious issues and instead simply choosing to bail out or unfortunately in some cases, cheat.