"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
A players(DJs)apartment,,what it should have?
- Thread starter pjbrown
- Start date
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Greasy Pig
Master Don Juan
I've had a lot of success by inviting women home for a nightcap.
spiegel549
Senior Don Juan
LOL!! I had to comment. Literally laughed out loud reading that.adam225 said:
Seriously though, just be clean, make sure your place smells nice, and have a lot of booze, movies, you know sh!t chicks would like.
nmartinez12443
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2008
- Messages
- 296
- Reaction score
- 46
THE MOST IMPORTANT TIP- YOUR APARTMENT SHOULD BE INCREDIBLY CLEAN ESPECIALLY THE BATHROOM.
1. Alchohol/food- 2 different bottles of wine red and white, vodka with mixers, craft beer, bottle water, various mixers, mini ice cream bars, hummus and pita bread, fruit, chips, chocolate, etc.
2. A large 42 inch hd television mininum, perfect for "movie nights" and access to netflix and or various movies.
3. A very comfortable couch.
4. A plant and unique artwork (can be had for cheap).
5. A sound system in the bedroom and living room, look to amazon.com. Create a playlist with chill music. I like rkelly slow wind, etc.
6. A mininum queen size bed preferrably pillow top with clean sheets.
7. A full length mirror outside the bedroom.
8. Clean decorative fluffy towels, I don't use them I have regular towels.
9. Condoms.
10. Glad Plug ins.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
bukowski_merit
Master Don Juan
I'm a practicing minimalist (look it up) so I have simple things at my place.
Bed, Table, Chairs, Weight Bench... And that's about it....
But my place is spotless and visually pleasing; and I keep it that way.
The 2 things I've most used to get women over my place:
- Alcohol (others have explained)
- SNES system. I'm not kidding! I've had tons of women who find out I have a SNES (along with key games women like such as Mario Kart) and practically invite themselves over to play them.
Do you know how many women I've actually played SNES with who were coming over to play it with me?
0
It's only the justification.
---
I also use scented candles a lot. Not only for the romantic effect, but... people like familiar smells. So it's much more comforting than the natural aroma of a house...
Dgwizdal
Master Don Juan
- Magazines on the living room table.
- Martini Shaker
- Coasters
- Lots of booze
- Lots of Shot Glasses
- A bangin sound system
- Nice TV
- XBOX
- A DECK OF CARDS.
- Cards against humanity
- A SAFE
- Candles
- Air Fresheners
- Swiffer
- Vacuum
- Iron
- Starch
- De-Wrinkler
- Laundry Detergent with a good smell
- YOU SHOULD KNOW HOW TO COOK. WELL. All the kitchen utensils as well as a good selection of spices.
- A patio with patio furniture
- A grill
- Blender
- George Forman
- Fluffy blanket on the reclining couches
- Extra Pillows
- Pictures of friends
- Sports/City memorabilia (Pictures of big city skyline if you live in one Chicago *Cough*)
- Netflix/Apple TV
- Free Weights
- An Assortment of vitamins, supplements, medicine
- Something healthy to drink
- Bottles of Water
- A handsome large breed Dog (Preferably an sweet obedient pitbull mix named Cooper)
- Condoms
- Herbal Viagras - they can take these two and watch em rip your pants off.
- A nice bowl with some sticky purple koosh
All of these things may not necessarily be for women per se however, I think they are essential to an established bachelor pad built for entertainment and enjoying yourself.
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
gravityeyelids
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2013
- Messages
- 918
- Reaction score
- 192
You know how people look like crap in the mirror in the bathroom because it's a big array of soft, diffused, cool-colored overhead lights?
Warmer color temperature (more orange/yellow rather than blue/white) is far more flattering on skin tones and in general.
Less diffused, more directional light creates flattering shadows.
Low key (more low to the ground) casts shadows across the face and body rather than lighting from above which blows everything out and makes it look bland.
Keep them dim as well.
For example: compar the lighting of a room like this: http://yololighting.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Dim-the-Lights.jpg
to this: http://jaipupdate.com/wp-content/up...-on-modern-open-plan-home-interior-design.jpg
Great list!Dgwizdal said:
I'd add a crockpot to the mix because it really is a man's best friend. Makes prep so much easier.
Anything you do that you have a passion for and that you can show off a little. Pictures you've painted, glass you've blown (has other uses), a table you made, and of course guitars if you play. Chicks really like artistic guys. And, really, we should all have something creative we do for the soul.
A pool table. It's the sport of kings and she will be your queen if you show her how to shoot a combo.
Horror movies. I like horror as much as the next guy but not as much as the next girl. Women love the stuff so I have several sitting around. They really like anything dealing with the supernatural.
Kailex
Master Don Juan
You have no idea how many times I've gone from work to happy hours to my place and the last thing I wanted was a messy studio.
Always have clean sheets, clean towels, clean bathroom, clean kitchen.
Condoms.
And please, cold bottles of water. This is usually the #1 request I get.
You don't need much, just the correct attitude and a tidy place.
gravityeyelids
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2013
- Messages
- 918
- Reaction score
- 192
Kailex said:
These are fvckin CLUTCH for those semi-awkward ONS's
In2theGame
Master Don Juan
LoL that apartment could run a very nice shiny penny in NYC but that would be a good players pad.VladPatton said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
This shıthole's getting more expensive by the month!In2theGame said:
Cerwin Vega
Master Don Juan
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
Your bed is very important. A lot of single guys throw a ratty twin mattress in the corner on the floor without any sheets. That's not a bed a woman wants to touch. I just got a queen pillow top I like a lot. The sheets you buy are important. I bought satin sheets for $15. Otherwise, you want the highest thread count you can afford. Stores that sell discount women's clothing, like Ross and TJMax will also sell sheets for cheap.
If you happen to be near a college, the week that the semester ends and students move out will be a gold mine of free stuff for dumpster diving. Usually they just set it next to the dumpster anyway.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.