"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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A new guy here! Some advice on a pretty dire situation...

Toast123

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Hey, new guy here, hoping for some feedback!

I'm actually fairly clued up about the game, I don't know technical terms and any shorthand but the most important thing is I know the ground rules.

Now let me tell you how I pretty much broke them and messed it up, so you can confirm to me that I should just next this person.

I'm a student, often described as fairly attractive and have had some attractive girlfriends/hook ups in the past.

I kind of had a weird attraction to someone, who'm to put it bluntly is not exactly traditionally attractive. It should have been a walk in the park to be honest but I messed up.

On a night out, I made out with her for half the night. Obviously drink was involved so our inhibitions were....gone.

Then I left it, a couple of days later sent her a playful message about how it was a fun night to which she replied in the same manner. I don't believe in talk for the sake of talk so to be a challange I left the convo there after only a couple of messages.

Then it appeared that an old flame got back in contact with her....grrr...so for a couple of weeks her interest and mind would have been entirely with him. Though it then seemed that she decided against re connecting with the guy as he was an idiot. So back to square one.

Now it all goes wrong. Drunk off my face, I get told by my female friend that the girl is wondering why I am not showing her any attention...so half way through the night I approach.

Gun-ho and drunk as a skunk. I basically make out with her for a bit then tell her I'm really interested and think she's really interesting.....ouch. I can see the attraction drain in her eyes before me but my drunk self is in charge now...my rational self screaming from the inside.

So at the end of the night, for some reason she's ok with me walking her home. When we arrive, she says I can come in for a drink or something but she's going to sleep.....grrr.....now I know from a friend this girl has had some bad sexual experience and isn't exactly open to just pounding new guys without a bit of trust first...so I kind of get where she is coming from but my drunk self is in charge and I persist to make out with her in the hallway, after a few seconds she begins to tell me to go home...so after a bit of convincing I leave.

About three days later I drop her a message askin if she wants to go for a drink....partly so she didn't feel like I was just trying to lay her so she wouldn't associate me with the many guys that could end up being yet another bad sexual experience.

No reply, that was about two weeks ago. Obviously I haven't made any contact with her since then....self respect thing, you know how it is.


Oh and one more thing. She lives NEXT DOOR LOL!

Ok, let's hear it guys. Many thanls.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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blueeyedgent

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Since you ask...

my advice is stop being a drunken idiot, even if you think the woman is lower value than you in terms of looks.
 

ezio

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Lol give her some space then give it another try but this time try not to be a drunken ****head
 

Bible_Belt

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She lives NEXT DOOR

Does the place you live have a yard, deck, or outdoor area where you can grill food and drink beer? I have socialized with a lot of neighbors that way.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Pimp-sicle

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You might have some knowledge and familiarity with game concepts; but you clearly don't GET IT yet.

When I read your post all I saw were tons of assumptions.

-I heard she had bad sexual experiences

-I heard she was in contact with an old fling

blah blah blah blah

None of that matters bro.

If a girl is attractive, guess what? Your probably not the only guy talking to her.

So in the future focus on your interactions with her, focus on building that attraction and having fun.

All the other stuff is just taking up space in your brain and making you over-analyze situations.


Lastly, either eat some food before you go out and get hammered or don't drink so much.





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