ThunderMaverick
Master Don Juan
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How do you give rep points anyways?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
i could argue that i am not desired for what i am, i am desired for what i do. however, i think it would be best to say that sometimes the grass seems greener on the other side, no matter which side you stand on.Bonez said:Men are desired for what they do, women are desired more for what they are.
I was told that before and I think its truer than the original statements.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
iqqi said:"Behind every great man, is a stronger woman."
And this is the thing that seriously needs to STOP(otherwise things for us will never improve..really guys, it's serious). It's time men man up, and tell their wives or girlfriends this is no free ride, to go out and try to get a f*ckin' decent job like the rest of us. And therefore threads like this won't have to be created.joekerr31 said:a woman on the other than hand, if she so chooses, can bypass creating her own life and simply marry into a males already successful life.
Very, very true. And when I hear about the divorce rate statistics, I can't understand where they've come from.joekerr31 said:most of these women are very good at keep their marriages going.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
The TRUTH of the matter is that it isn't nearly as much that a woman elevates a man to success, as it is that many women stifle a man's potential to be successful.joekerr31 said:women love to believe that their man wouldn't have been successful had it not been for her, but the truth is in most cases you could toss one woman out and replace her with another and it would all be the same.
in some rare cases this turns out not to be true (can anyone say bill clinton?![]()
Yeah I agree, the woman is mostly along for the ride and all she can do is screw up the man's greatness and success, or stay out of his way. Also, I'm sure you could find great men that had pretty average wives and even wives that henpecked and criticised his decisions and ideas, yet he was able to tune her out and do what he thought was best anyway.STR8UP said:The TRUTH of the matter is that it isn't nearly as much that a woman elevates a man to success, as it is that many women stifle a man's potential to be successful.
The right woman= slightly better environment to foster success.
The wrong woman= forget about it.
Stop trying to make yourself more important than you are. We're all aware of the smug satisfaction you get out of turning threads into p!ssing matches with little emasculative jabs.iqqi said:"Behind every great man, is a stronger woman."
And here are a few more that you won't agree with:
"The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the average man can see better than he can think."
"One is not born a woman, one becomes one." (I like that one because it just goes to show that most of what can be said about a man... has been said about a woman. And be sure to credit iqqi when quoting that!)
This is so true.joekerr31 said:women love to believe that their man wouldn't have been successful had it not been for her, but the truth is in most cases you could toss one woman out and replace her with another and it would all be the same.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
edger said:Very, very true. And when I hear about the divorce rate statistics, I can't understand where they've come from.
yep.STR8UP said:The TRUTH of the matter is that it isn't nearly as much that a woman elevates a man to success, as it is that many women stifle a man's potential to be successful.
The right woman= slightly better environment to foster success.
The wrong woman= forget about it.
Of course! Women want weddings, not marriages, right? Makes sense to me.joekerr31 said:anyway, women are good at controlling things during the courtship and honeymoon phases or a relationship. they are typically HORRIBLE at nurturing a relationship long term. the sex dries up, they start nagging, they start blaming their husband for their lack of happiness in life, etc.
By this "logic" the local crackwhôre must be incredible to allow so many others to outshine her.iqqi said:.... it would take a strong woman to be able to let her man's greatness take the shine as opposed to her own.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.