A Little Too Strong

[WalkingStick]

I've been reading these forums for a while now and have gone through all of the very basic "rules" concerning confidence, kino, priorities, etc. There was one area in particular that I was looking for a little guidance on.

Is there any way to be sure you're not coming on too strong? As an AFC (hopefully not for long), I'm used to avoiding things like playful touching and half-sexual comments for fear of "scaring" girls. I'm having trouble getting a feel for what's appropriate and what isnt. Especially in HS, it seems too easy to overdo it.

Looks like there's a fine line between playful and horny bastard, can someone help me find it?

 

[Crazy Asian]

haha each girl has a different "limit"
some girls you can pull down their pants and they'll laugh it off, and others if you say something about women they'll freak out.
that's why you escalate. start slow, and keep pushing until you get where you want.

 

[SinJester]

You've already got 2 good comments from guys who know what they are talking about her. Not only does every girl have a limit but who you are effects their limit. Obviously if you are in the friends zone the limit will be very low. If she sees you as boyfriend it will be higher but she might hold back. If you are an attractive guy but make it sure you don't need her, you can get other girls and you don't judge girls for beign sexual (in fact you expect them to be) you can get away with a lot. If she sees you as a touchy person, which you do by being touchy with everyone, you can also get away with a lot more because she sees it as juts being you.

Things like alcahol effect the 'limit'. Logistics as well. There are a lot of variables but now I willl tell you the basics.

Basically assuming she is attracted to you the limit goes up according to her 'buying temperature'. You make her laugh, esulate, then back off just a little bit. You keep doing this and she should stay comfortable for the whole thing. Anything light and fun is fine anytime. Shake hands when meeting, have thumb wars, touch her arm to express something, grab her hand to send how she reacts, push her playfully. Check out the DiCarlo Esculation Ladder I posted:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=147259

That should really help you. You said there's a fine line between playfull and horny bastard. There isn't. It's all about the energy you are giving out. Think about it. If you are just being playfull it will come accross that way. If you are trying to get the girls and being a horny bastard they will know. A general rule is to have a 50/50 split, and changing it up if she isn't comfortable or accoring to time.

I hope that helps but to actually truly learn it you just have to go out and try. You might overstep the boundry a few times but you will learn from it. Eventually you will be able to tell how attracted she is and how much to esculate. I reccomend for you to start trying kino on everyone. In the day and on everyone but keep it playfull just so you become a touchy person. Don't go sexual unless it's at a party or you are alone.

 

[WalkingStick]

thanks for the help guys