"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A little situation..

k201

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Okay so this girl I like brings some guy to my house like 2 weeks back. Got me real pist.

So then on another night I go and get with another girl, little did I know that the girl I like was going to show up as I'm walking out of my room with this other b*tch.

Anyways its been awkward between the 2 of us since then. So last weekend I decided to text her and see what the deal was. The convo went like this:

Me: Hey K, can we chill/talk later?
K: Hey k201, I'm actually on the way home right now, whats up?
Me: Well its been a lil awkward since you brought that dude to my house don't you think?
K: Hey well I don't even remember that night although I do remember being at your place.
K: But I really don't want things to be weird between us...
Me: Nothings weird, were good.
K: Okay good, so no worries then.
Me: Yea good so were even then, also I want to hang out with you more often.
K: Even hmm..I don't know about that (She only made out with that guy I f*cked the girl I got with), but yea we can definately make that happen. I'm going to sleep now we'll figure something out tommorow.
Me: Okay text/call me tommorow I'm holding you to that.

Never got a text or a call, but i refuse to call her.

Whats my next move?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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MacAvoy

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She's not all that into you like Meta said. However more importantly you did 2 things wrong. You should have never asked for the talk, it was weak. More importantly you shouldn't have said that you wanted to spend more time with her. Men don't ask, me do, men act. Men make things happen, women want men to take control and your not taking control.
 

noirsake

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Time to hit the "Next" button. She's obviously not interested.
 

MrNotebook

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...put that mutha in the past. She liable to waste yo precious alpha time.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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