"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

A little depressed

Darth

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 20, 2005
Messages
1,626
Reaction score
98
Age
36
After he kept pressing me and pressing me, a very close, younger friend of mine eventually got me to elaborate on what I guess you could say is considered the "red pill" in these parts (women say one thing but mean another, they say they don't want men to have power and dominance over them, but actually they do). Once it finally sunk in, he said that this only proves one thing: that he knows a lot more about women than I do.

I laughed and repeated what he said. He said, "Yeah, I don't think it's even close."

I didn't even want to tell this guy the truth, but he kept pressing me for it, and then when he's gotten some of the best advice he's ever heard, he's ungrateful.

This goes to show:

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

That's all, just thought I'd relay my failure at getting my fellow man to understand the truth about women.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

Lozboss

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 27, 2015
Messages
709
Reaction score
205
Location
London, UK
Darth

Few are ready to accept the red pill.

Rollo on his Rational Male forum has a great post about unplugging other men from the Matrix:

1. Help those you can
2. Leave those you can't for dead

The mind must be open to truly change. Your buddy might have to experience a relationship trauma to finally open his mind. It's during his post morgen analysis where most discover the red pill.
 

Young OG

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 6, 2015
Messages
1,247
Reaction score
1,060
Location
USA
I have this happen too. I have a buddy who's ex cheated on him and they broke up. She has him thinking it was his fault, because "he was a ass hole." I tried telling him it's not his fault but he doesn't want to hear it. Now the guy has a bunch women he is in the friend zone with. He is pretty much an orbiter. I tried to give him some tips but he cut me off with "I know how to talk to women" and said it very pissy. After that I said forget it. Some people will never learn...
 

Darth

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 20, 2005
Messages
1,626
Reaction score
98
Age
36
Lozboss said:
Your buddy might have to experience a relationship trauma to finally open his mind. It's during his post morgen analysis where most discover the red pill.
You're probably right. It just kills me that he was trying to drag it out of me (sensed I knew something that I didn't), and then as soon as he fully understood my mindset, rejected it.

My hope is that a year or two down the line, when he experiences some humiliation or something, he'll remember our conversation, test out the mindset, and the rest will be history.
 

teebear

Don Juan
Joined
Sep 28, 2014
Messages
116
Reaction score
39
My best friend is the same. He doesn't believe in game or red pill awareness. I gave up trying to educate him and simply said "OK - watch me" instead.

Now I'm dating a beautiful lawyer who is two inches taller than me and earns nearly double what I do. It's getting harder for him to deny that I'm onto something. :D
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Poon King

Banned
Joined
Nov 30, 2014
Messages
1,594
Reaction score
2,257
Location
Deep
Society needs idiotic betas like him to fall in line and play cannon fodder so that wise men, alphas, women and children can enjoy the fruits of living in a modern society.

I do not force the red pill upon my friends. In fact, I do not TALK about the red pill at all.. I just LIVE the red pill and let my friends SEE reality for themselves. A picture is worth 1000 words. And watching a 31 year old guy spin plates with hotties while they engage in beta slavery to mediocre used up women for the sake of "image" makes the reality of WHO is in control of their life and WHO isn't very clear. :crackup:

Reactions are different. Some men admire you. Some don't care. Some become jealous. Some want to know the secret. Men who become jealous are dangerous and you should cut contact with them immediately for obvious reasons. And I always do.

Overall, there is no benefit (to you) for talking about this stuff among the PC society we live in and the endless sea of white knights, thirsty faggots and beta b!tches. Many of them don't deserve to know the red pill.

This sh!t is like the mafia. You live it, but you don't talk about it... except among like-minded peers. Not because you don't want other men to know.. but because YOU will not benefit from publicly sharing this stuff.
 

Format

Banned
Joined
Aug 3, 2015
Messages
10
Reaction score
0
Poon King said:
Society needs idiotic betas like him to fall in line and play cannon fodder so that wise men, alphas, women and children can enjoy the fruits of living in a modern society.

I do not force the red pill upon my friends. In fact, I do not TALK about the red pill at all.. I just LIVE the red pill and let my friends SEE reality for themselves. A picture is worth 1000 words. And watching a 31 year old guy spin plates with hotties while they engage in beta slavery to mediocre used up women for the sake of "image" makes the reality of WHO is in control of their life and WHO isn't very clear. :crackup:

Reactions are different. Some men admire you. Some don't care. Some become jealous. Some want to know the secret. Men who become jealous are dangerous and you should cut contact with them immediately for obvious reasons. And I always do.

Overall, there is no benefit (to you) for talking about this stuff among the PC society we live in and the endless sea of white knights, thirsty faggots and beta b!tches. Many of them don't deserve to know the red pill.

This sh!t is like the mafia. You live it, but you don't talk about it... except among like-minded peers. Not because you don't want other men to know.. but because YOU will not benefit from publicly sharing this stuff.
So just having red pill knowledge makes you irresistible to hotties and nothing else?

Can a man with nothing who doesn't work out, dresses like a slob, doesn't groom himself or know how to interact with others just pull hotties and spin plates just by claiming to have superior red pill knowledge?
 

thatfeel

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 5, 2013
Messages
714
Reaction score
186
MidnightCity said:
red pill and game are triage. its also dirty work.

you save those who can be saved.

everyone else can drown
:up: :up: :up:
 

Scaramouche

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 27, 2008
Messages
4,440
Reaction score
1,559
Age
82
Location
Australia
Dear Darth,
Don't let it get you down...what you have told him goes against the values he took in with his Mothers Milk...Can't expect the poor fellow to do a U Turn on a busy Highway...No he is in denial,but he will go away and think about your words,maybe do his U Turn a bit further down the Road!
 

rugby11

Don Juan
Joined
Sep 6, 2014
Messages
92
Reaction score
4
Darth hang in their Working out gets me away from thinking about stuff such as this at times.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

Top