"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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A heartbroken of christmas

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Merry christmas everybody. I need advice for something stupid.

I had dinner with a co-worker this week. We always had "the vibe" together, talking close to each other, holding hands and stuff. I never closed the deal because I'm married and she knows it.

Anyway, after the dinner I walked her home and chatted with her a little. Laughing, touching… I moved close to her and went for the kiss. She refused with a sigh, saying under her breath "no". I stopped there, she was smiling and saying that it was nice but she knew my wife and was afraid about everything going wrong, and that we couldn't see each other anymore. I was heartbroke, but always with that small grin and "hey, no worries" attitude, like I just had asked her for the salt or something. We hugged and said goodnight.

Here's the stupid part. When we see each other I act like nothing is wrong, and so does she. The she goes about a phone call she was expecting from some guy, and how her heart was tight for him, and how she had to wait until january to see him again. My facade cracked a little, the grin quickly went sad then back to grin again.

No, NOW it's the stupid part. I got drunk yesterday and called her saying that "we need to talk". She spotted my deep voice and asked if I was crying, in which I dismissed saying "what? c'mon, I'm giving you an once in a lifetime opportunity to have 'the talk' with me". The seriousness in her voice went away with the ****iness, and she responded "ok, let's see if I can see you this monday".

Today I have a hangover, thinking "why the FCK I did that?" Really, why the fck? There's nothing I could say that could make us kiss or whatever, and looks like there's nothing I could do to look less beta. I thought to say something like "listen, we can't be friends anymore because I don't see you like that anymore, and since things will be complicated I'll be away for some time" and cut her away - which I really don't want because she's amazing but it seems the only dignified thing to do.

What else can I do? Is there a way do salvage this situation?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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LuisGarcia10

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So you're attempting to cheat on your wife of 6 years the week before christmas and you're complaining about being heartbroken?

Get a grip.
 

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I agree with LOH..man, dude, you are married, if your woman and you are not happy, dont fvck around, end it, this girl you have a liking for is single, you couldve have the chance if you were single but you AINT!!!.. either A)-get a divorce and go through the painful steps of that and the hurting of both parties and all involved B)-Love the woman more, the one you said "I do" too.. There is a reason you two married each other.. find a spark again, do something very un you two. DO IT!!!!

Ask yourself, why are you considering this other woman when you have your woman?

give us more info and we can help more..Love the one your with..but if you dont.....then do what right..begin the pain now for future healing, dont prelong the inevitable if it is the inevitable.
 

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less or no contact. if she brings it up, say you were drunk, and jusy playing around. play it off. then... wean yourself off of her, by doing no contact or least amount of contact. delete her number, and contacts. only forced contact thru work should occur
 

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namoroka said:
I had dinner with a co-worker this week. We always had "the vibe" together, talking close to each other, holding hands and stuff. I never closed the deal because I'm married and she knows it.
namoroka said:
Laughing, touching… I moved close to her and went for the kiss.
You're a fvcking idiot.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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namoroka

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I guess a little context is needed since people here are seeing me as an *******. Yes, I'm married, but I don't live with my wife for two months now. Our marriage is pretty much over by now. We tried to reconcile but it didn't work. We can't get the divorce by now because we can't afford it. I'm not a happily married guy who chases tail on a regular basis. Believe me, I tried to make it work. I made an ass of myself, and now I got tired.

Can you help me with the original post?
 

betheman

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say nothing, do nothing other than get around other women and let her see, she is telling you she is waiting on another guy??? then let her ****ing wait on him, your going nowhere with her
 

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Only you know if she really had feelings for you or was it just to get a rise out of you. You can bring up you two are no longer living together and are in the process of divorce, if that is true, only you know. Then if she says she will wait for it to be finalized but she will be dating anyway this other dude, chase tail man. She will not wait and when it is finalized she will say she and the dude are dating on a regular basis..

She was just teasing you..move on..
 
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