"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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A Girl's Friends...what is worse

Fumbduck

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Girl 1: Outgoing, down to do just about anything, fun. She has many guy friends and a handful of girl friends. However she habitually chooses bad male friends. From a physically abusive ex boyfriend, to druggie friends, to "friends" that are just scumbag people. She has the same core group of friends, but every few years she gets involved with a new "clique" of bad male friends. People I have nothing in common, nor do I care to be around...

Girl 2:
Introverted, does not like people she does not already know, takes her a while to warm up to people. Does not have many friends, and the friends she does have i would personally consider "close acquaintances". These people are usually good people IMO, but she doesn't care to develop or maintain friendships outside a relationship.

I'm currently talking to both of these girls. I feel each girl's "friends" situation is a red flag, but from your experiences, what is worse? I think they both can be solid girls, but I feel that the company someone keeps tells a lot about them.

What do you think...is it worth it to get involved with either one of these?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Justin Time

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My personal preference would be girl 2 for long term and girl one if I'm not ready for anything serious. I have my doubts about girl one doing anything for you positive long term. Girl 2 seems more genuine imo.
 

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Girl 1: Trash, scum.
Girl 2: Likely will turn into a fine clinger.

Would steer away from 1 at all costs, a walking future disease.

2, meh, too early to tell. Might be less of an issue than you think, Yellow flag at most. Would not deter me if I found her attractive.

SH
 

Warrior74

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Doesn't matter if all you plan to do is bang anyway. They all will eventually blow out and move on. Number 2 if you plan on keeping one. It's all about you judging her judgement.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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sodbuster

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#2 is the better choice for a GF. #1 is already showing her lack of judgement...which may make her easier to bang
 

Jitterbug

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Girl 1's friends can be a bit dangerous and she can set them loose on you if things don't go her way. I'd avoid trashy women like her. Mate of mine got stabbed by one of those loser white knight thugs after dumping a chick like that, and I've heard much worse stories (often out of the UK).

Girl 2 sounds okay, could be clingy later on, but not a big deal.
 

Slickster

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I've dated these exact same girls!

Girl 1 was super fun and great sex but I could never really trust her. I wouldn't even want to leave her alone at my place. It was a short relationship.

Girl 2 was fun but the introverted, shy thing was a real drag. I found myself drifting away from my friends after being with her for awhile. I'm a social guy and if my girl is opposite it's not going to last.

These are both red flags IMO. Depending how serious you are about them.
 

fuko2007

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haha....been here before....Girl 1 ...huge red flag mostly guy friends, wich equates that she has prolly messed around with most of them at one point or another and will again. No LTR as soon as she is done you will become one of her "friends" untill she is ready for you again.

Girl 2 sounds much better, more of an ltr type who wouldnt cheat. You could work on her shyness unlike girl 1 once a ho always a ho.
 

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Concur with most of the above. Girl #1 would give you crabs if she didn't shave her snatch. She is most definitely fucking a couple of the orbiter guy friends or has in the past.

Girl #2 will be ok for a LTR if you can handle the introverted stuff. If she's got other good qualities, it may compensate.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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