"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A dumping story..........

Rubirosa

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I think there's some kind of message here :

Some years back, I was in a serious relationship. We even lived together for about a year, then she moved out (she was really starting to get *****y). However, after she moved out, she still wanted to continue as a couple. I was like OK w/ that. A couple months later, I caught her in a big lie....No, it didn't involve another guy, but it still hurt because I trusted her. I texted her w/ these words "Trust is gone, it's over". I was at a golf driving range when I texted this. I was down to my last golfball....I said to myself "If I just did the right thing, this is going to be my best shot of the day !" I proceeded to smack a straight 300 yarder (I don't even golf...I just like going to the range). Later, I decided to go to a mall to get lunch and to check out the chicks walking by since I was now back on the market. I sit down on a bench and start checking out the hotties.
Here comes the text messages :

"Is it really over?"
"I want to see you !"
"I miss you !"

She eventually wears me down w/ her texts and calls, so I decide to see her, and she seems so sincerely sorry that I think "Maybe we do have something here ?" I take her back
Right away she starts getting *****ier and *****ier...more so than ever. All of a sudden she stops answering calls. This is like 2 weeks after I took her back. I finally reach her and she's like "It's over !". I am now feeling like a devastated chump. I don't see her for 3 months, and I miss her big time (go figure).
My friends from another country are visiting, so I decide to show them a very fancy mall (yeah the same one). We are about to leave the mall after spending the afternoon there, but then i decide to show them one more of my favorite stores. We go upstairs and are now in the exact same spot where I was sitting 4 months earlier contemplating my ex's text messages. I look up and who's walking towards us holding hands w/ a new boyfriend ? Yes ! Correct !
The probability odds of us meeting like that must be astronomical...but if that wasn't some kind of message, I don't know what is.
The lesson I learned is that even if chick doesn't like you and wants to leave, if you dump her first, her ego will freak out and she will temporarily change just so she can be the dumper and not the dumpee
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Rubirosa said:
The lesson I learned is that even if chick doesn't like you and wants to leave, if you dump her first, her ego will freak out and she will temporarily change just so she can be the dumper and not the dumpee
Wow, are you serious ????

Look, I guess that you do not read much on this board . The situation that you describe has been raised many, many times here.
You have just learned what most of us here have known for a long time.
A woman scorned is a vindictive critter.
 

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jophil28 said:
Wow, are you serious ????

Look, I guess that you do not read much on this board . The situation that you describe has been raised many, many times here.
You have just learned what most of us here have known for a long time.
A woman scorned is a vindictive critter.
Exactly!!!

I mention a Hooter's girl I dated from time to time on here not to brag, but make a point. She was HOT, a drunk and was just a horrible person. I dated her a month I guess. I dumped her, and her ego was bruised badly. Guys just do not dump me or my kind was her mentality!!!!

Did she come back? Uh, NO!!! What did she do? Just as Jop describes: Became vindictive and left several obscene messages that would have made a sailor blush. It was a great win for me because I dumped her first; never talked to her trashy a$$ again and ignored her taunts.
 

Rubirosa

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jophil28 said:
Wow, are you serious ????

Look, I guess that you do not read much on this board . The situation that you describe has been raised many, many times here.
You have just learned what most of us here have known for a long time.
A woman scorned is a vindictive critter.
This isn't something I just learned, like i said, it happened some years back. No doubt this same theme has been discussed here before. I just wanted to share the story
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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"A woman scorned is a vindictive critter."

So right, that is why I think the suggestions that you dump first are often wrong and dangerous. Always better, assuming you want it, for her to dump you, it's a lot safer if she thinks it's her idea.

But it can backfire if she wants you back later and you don't want to come back lol.

Countermart
 

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Dear Rubirosa,
A very interesting story.
 

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Bump for education.

When she immediately chases after you (span of a few days), she genuinely is only thinking about getting you back. It's like pulling back an elastic band, the sudden rush of emotion caused by your rejection makes her want to snap back to you.

If you take her back at this initial snap back stage, she will immediately realize that she does not actually want you, and remember why she lost interest in the first place. You will have extremely turbulent times at this stage, and it will probably end in her dumping you.

She doesnt necessarily do this intentionally, it happens because she is a female.

The correct way to success is to completely ignore the crazy snap back phase, and proceed to long term plan, whatever that might be.
 
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